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[00:00:09.115554]<osimons>vaughn: Trac 0.11.0? If so upgrade to latest 0.11 - I seem to remember seeing that bug in tickets, but can' remember for sure
[00:00:21.261031]<wildintellect>trac just died on me, though I haven't been messing with it - any ideas http://pastey.net/123306
[00:02:38.356340]<osimons>wildintellect: yes, genshi has a compiled c-extension, but is not unzipped on install (bug fixed for latest 0.5.2dev, but 0.5.1 eggs are wrong). Do "easy_install -U -Z http://svn.edgewall.org/repos/genshi/branches/stable/0.5.x" to install latest
[00:03:07.973312]<wildintellect>what's odd is that it's been working fine for months
[00:03:08.355237]<osimons>(-Z = --always-unzip)
[00:03:40.936872]<osimons>wildintellect: the why's and won'ts of python eggs and cache is not always predictable...
[00:04:22.226803]<vaughn>osimons: the tickets I've seen where for 0.8 and 0.9. I'll try upgrading, but it's on dreamhost so it's tricky to overwrite their automatic install
[00:05:13.028072]<wildintellect>osimons, thanks - hope that works
[00:05:28.005818]<osimons>vaughn: i can see that, but do search closed attachment tickets for details - i'm quite sure it is in there somewhere.
[00:05:33.511122]<osimons>nevermind...
[00:15:51.178745]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracPermissions edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions?version=65> - rjollos
[00:16:53.025728]<wildintellect>hmm, that worked now an OT - for some reason my DNS is routing pings but not traffic wtf
[00:21:15.303382]<vaughn>ok, dreamhost is running 0.11.4, and I don't see anything in the Changelog fixing the spaces in attachments error in 0.11.5
[00:21:54.170053]<vaughn>are attachments supposed to be loaded via Trac? because my setup is using apache to load attachments, so I think it's dropping the url encoding
[00:29:48.834223]<osimons>vaughn: yes, trac usually serves attachment - sounds like a good reason for why it is different
[00:31:18.524426]<vaughn>aha! looks like the .htaccess dreamhost drops in is screwed
[00:40:35.295429]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracIni edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni?version=145> - rjollos
[00:43:32.073104]<vaughn>osimons: thanks, fixed it by replacing all the .htaccess rewriterules for .jpg etc. with RewriteCond $1 !^.*htdocs.*$. now the only thing not working is # in filenames. it's like trac thinks the filename ends at the #. "Attachment 'ticket:186: Bull Fish GC sale on 8-1-09 employee ' does not exist." for https://x/trac/attachment/ticket/186/Bull%20Fish%20GC%20sale%20on%208-1-09%20employee%20%236001.jpg
[01:17:42.495204]<oneg>hi
[01:17:53.928884]<oneg>is it possible to make a 'hidden' component?
[01:18:14.040501]<oneg>ie. one that wouldn't appear in the admin panel
[02:34:31.595112]<dandre>hello,
[02:34:56.831534]<dandre>is there userpage plugin (http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracUserPagePlugin) compatible with trac 0.11.5?
[02:35:40.797331]<dandre>it worked well under 0.11-4 but not after trac upgrade
[02:40:38.149137]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #2656 (Make built-in documentation independent from wiki) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2656#comment:22> - rjollos
[02:45:38.108529]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #2656 (Make built-in documentation independent from wiki) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2656#comment:23> - Ryan Ollos <ryano@…>
[02:48:39.568328]<dandre>anyone?
[02:55:39.015247]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8592 ('Replace attachment of same name' visible even though user has not enough ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8592#comment:2> - Ryan Ollos <ryano@…>
[02:55:44.014984]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8595 (Add IDs to the labels in the ticket modification form) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8595#comment:1> - Ryan Ollos <ryano@…>
[04:00:39.943636]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8592 ('Replace attachment of same name' visible even though user has not enough ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8592#comment:3> - rblank
[04:33:52.312602]<WiK>morning
[04:45:11.434852]<ikrabbe>Hi I assume this question has been asked a myriad times, but I can't find an answer in the trac documentation. I find this is a lack:
[04:45:11.656566]<ikrabbe>I just started a new trac host and want to change the look of the project site. I know how to change the header logo, I know how to change the Menu list, but how Do I change the bottom line (not the right aligned part, but the left aligned part with the powered by logo etc.
[04:52:28.214462]<ikrabbe>hmm, found it #footer {display:none }
[04:53:19.527311]<ikrabbe>somehow I feel the internal layout of trac should be documented better, aka. I don't know where the development internals of trac are.
[04:56:05.890104]<ikrabbe>maybe it all has to do with the move from clearsilver to genshi. These names should be listed (like #footer) and described. Maybe I will do it someday in the near future.
[04:58:59.146151]<ikrabbe>but first it seems I need to understand what you have done to your class layout ... too much OO, I would say
[04:59:37.598631]<sperber>hi - is there a way to show the dates of the ticket changes instead of or additional to the time which has passed since?
[04:59:50.482245]<rooaus>When modifying the workflow is there any issue when removing a state? Is it just a matter of making sure no tickets are in the state that will be deleted from the workflow?
[05:03:38.931502]<rooaus>Also, does anyone know whether BatchModifyPlugin will send notifications for batch actions?
[05:04:46.828530]<rooaus>coling: ^^^ Asking to try to help out the myth devs, do you have any advice?
[05:06:22.396382]<coling>rooaus, not really mate :( AFAIK it does not send notifications, but I've not played with it for a long time (doesn't work for me last time I tried). And I've not done any alchemy with workflows either so I'm a pretty bad person to ask really :s
[05:08:34.212970]<rooaus>I don't think they want notifications sent, seems many of the devs hold off milestone reassignments etc. because of the flood of emails it causes. Suppose I can always a trac locally and test for them.
[05:10:03.835546]<rooaus>coling: np, just thought I would ask.
[05:10:57.853170]<coling>rooaus, just to a batch modify on one ticket :)
[05:11:05.997158]<coling>no need to install locally.
[05:16:58.468002]<dandre>is the userpage plugin (http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/TracUserPagePlugin) compatible with trac 0.11.5? it worked well under 0.11-4 but not after trac upgrade
[05:49:52.381340]<diva>0.11 How to convert my current SQLite3 database to use PostgreSQL instead?
[05:53:42.901318]<oneg>diva: there is script
[05:53:54.426893]<oneg>diva: that does that automagically
[05:54:31.847041]<oneg>diva: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/SqliteToPgScript
[05:55:27.954574]<jhammel>diva: be warned though...it ain't flawless
[05:55:53.137803]<jhammel>diva: so backup, migrate, and inspect
[05:57:04.253284]<diva>thanks oneg & jhammel
[05:57:37.484820]<diva>How to backup? Just copy the SQLite3 database?
[05:58:11.187886]<jhammel>diva: yep;
[05:58:17.010193]<diva>thanks
[05:58:28.023957]<jhammel>diva: though it won't fuxor the old db...i just get paranoid in my old age
[05:58:52.323815]<sperber>hehe - define old
[05:59:11.866480]<diva>> 15 ?
[05:59:16.717149]<wom_>hi all.. is there any macro available that could tell me ticket id.. let's say I have description of ticket and I want build link in it with ticket's "self.id"
[05:59:20.859384]<jhammel>diva: hah! ;)
[05:59:35.644055]<jhammel>old enough to grow up with DOS ;)
[05:59:48.202115]<diva>:) no comment
[05:59:57.621989]<sperber>that would also make me old
[06:00:15.088056]<jhammel>well, i'm not *that* old
[06:00:23.984613]<jhammel>though my year counter just incremented, so i feel it
[06:00:29.309453]<sperber>around 30 i guess?
[06:00:37.379660]<jhammel>sperber: 32, good guess :)
[06:00:46.461631]<sperber>hehe - grats btw ;)
[06:00:56.754963]<jhammel>for being old?!? ;)
[06:01:37.258754]<sperber>for the increment
[06:01:39.945171]<sperber>:p
[06:02:04.840560]<jhammel>i try not to think about it
[06:02:22.414063]<sperber>lol
[06:03:11.729376]<sperber>well back to trac - do you by any luck know how to fix my problem?
[06:10:25.772828]<sperber>nm - hovering over the eg "4 weeks" tells me what i need to know :)
[06:13:03.742900]<oneg>jhammel: don't worry, I'm older ;-)
[06:41:43.485982]<oneg>sombody was asking if BatchModify sends notifications?
[06:44:35.103177]<rooaus>oneg: me :)
[06:58:37.271657]*retracile utters something irreverent about mornings.
[07:05:27.699835]<oneg>rooaus: it seem that it does in fact trigger TicketChangeListeners
[07:06:42.699638]<rooaus>oneg: Thanks, I will have to look at it further if it was to be used to find a way to disable that. Thanks once again. :)
[07:07:53.864296]<oneg>hmm...
[07:10:37.866963]<jhammel>hmmmm.....how do you do list comprehensions in a py:for?
[07:13:29.727126]<jhammel>bah, nm, i'll just restructure my data
[07:25:01.666769]<jhammel>i'm really starting not to like the methodology of duplicating Options for multiple classes that need them
[07:25:14.778523]<jhammel>if i want to change a default, now i have multiple places to change it
[07:32:51.064068]<m__g>hey guys
[07:33:17.100097]<m__g>the new customization feature seems complicated.. is there a quick way to just add google analytics code to a project without writing a full template?
[07:34:01.773870]<m__g>it was in the site_header.cs before, but since the upgrade to 0.11 not included into the page source anymore
[07:35:58.214414]<m__g>oh well it's easier than i thought it would be.. just added it to site.html :)
[07:36:58.321350]<m__g>not at the position where i want it to be, but should work anyway
[07:41:39.790050]<asmodai>doki_pen: nice patch to Whoosh :)
[07:44:22.290272]<thansen>is there an alternative to NoAnonymous? it's failing me
[07:45:33.264282]<doki_pen>asmodai: :D
[07:45:41.669752]<doki_pen>it was a patch to irclogs though
[07:46:27.974766]<asmodai>I'm on the list ;)
[07:46:49.044967]<asmodai>doki_pen: How's Whoosh working out for ya?
[07:48:42.107265]<thansen>doki_pen: any suggestions to replace NoAnonymous?
[08:00:45.380050]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8599 (possibility to send complete tickets per mail (full history and ...) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8599> - achim@…
[08:01:28.815900]<jhammel>sounds like a plugin to me
[08:04:50.273733]<doki_pen>asmodai: good. I'm having a problem with timezone conversion, but it's not whooshes fault
[08:04:57.968964]<doki_pen>asmodai: it is fast and the index is small
[08:05:02.217871]<doki_pen>asmodai: no complaints
[08:05:05.575594]<oneg>does anyone have idea what htdocs/js/query.js is?
[08:05:13.714949]<doki_pen>thansen: what is NoAnonymous?
[08:05:20.277151]<oneg>seems like really ancient version of JQuery...
[08:05:32.168753]<doki_pen>oneg: the latest trac has a newer version
[08:05:37.800771]<thansen>doki_pen: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/NoAnonymousPlugin
[08:05:46.480658]<doki_pen>oneg: if you look in the file, it's got a version near the top
[08:05:59.514276]<oneg>doki_pen: no, no.. I'm not talking about jquery.js
[08:06:02.041584]<doki_pen>asmodai: are you using it?
[08:06:12.263454]<oneg>doki_pen: I'm talking about query.js
[08:06:19.242658]<doki_pen>oneg: ah, sorry!
[08:06:44.268362]<oneg>and by ancient, I mean really ancient ;-)
[08:07:01.124440]<doki_pen>thansen: it seems really simple, can't you hack the code to get it working?
[08:07:12.389505]<doki_pen>oneg: it's probably cruft
[08:09:22.375967]<thansen>doki_pen: the plugin works, it's got a security hole (as I see it) so I'm looking for alternatives
[08:10:30.414831]<jhammel>thansen: why not just remove all permissions from anonymous?
[08:12:39.703586]<thansen>jhammel: I would just need to merge all those permissions into authenticated
[08:13:22.143800]<thansen>I know I could do that, just wanted to know if anyone knew of an alternative
[08:13:35.494292]<thansen>kinda a PITA to merge them all (for me anyway)
[08:20:34.030618]<doki_pen>is there an init.d script for a cluster of tracd instances somewhere?
[08:20:40.072507]<doki_pen>pacopablo: do you have something?
[08:25:36.513921]<dandre>could anyone help me with TracUserPagePlugin ?
[08:25:46.806212]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracUsers edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers?version=867> - jcarsique@…
[08:50:48.579839]<oneg>aw, crap..
[08:51:06.022702]<oneg>BatchModify does...
[08:51:08.013990]<oneg>from trac.ticket.query import QueryModule
[08:51:30.938343]<oneg>then in ther pre_process_request..
[08:51:48.275879]<oneg>it does isinstance(handler, QueryModule)
[08:52:08.418505]<oneg>which on my tracd returns false...
[08:53:11.983436]<oneg>handler =<trac.ticket.query.QueryModule object at 0x1be1b10>, isinstance = False
[08:53:26.325618]<oneg>this just doesn't make sense...
[08:55:12.185104]<thansen>jhammel: do you know of an easy way to copy permissions?
[08:55:26.948288]<jhammel>thansen: copy them? what do you mean?
[08:55:55.543869]<jhammel>trac-admin foo permission list | xclip -i
[08:56:10.397937]<thansen>jhammel: well, if I'm gonna get rid of anonymous, I presume I need to add all those permissions to authenticated
[08:56:26.255969]<jhammel>thansen: i would probably write a script; sorry, i know its not what you want to hear
[08:57:11.824750]<jhammel>thansen: so if that doesn't count as "easy", then no :(
[08:57:32.288974]<thansen>jhammel: fair enough :)
[09:02:18.871016]<doki_pen>thansen: update permission set username='authenticated' where username ='anonymous';
[09:02:22.509163]<doki_pen>thansen: backup first!
[09:03:09.695305]<doki_pen>you also may need to make sure anonymous and authenticated don't have an permissions in common
[09:03:30.976303]<thansen>yes
[09:03:31.946769]<doki_pen>you would first need a query to delete any perms from anon that exist already in authenticated
[09:04:01.953804]<thansen>yeah, just trying to decide if I want to hack the db manually or use cli right now
[09:04:21.536533]<thansen>the output for permissions via cli isn't very script friendly :(
[09:05:55.068255]<doki_pen>thansen: select * from permission a left join permission b on a.username = 'anonymous' and b.username = 'authenticated' and a.action = b.action where b.username is not null;
[09:06:16.985885]<doki_pen>thansen: that gives you all rows in common
[09:06:40.694452]<doki_pen>you could make that a subquery of the delete
[09:08:32.238345]<doki_pen>delete from permission where action in (select a.action from permission a left join permission b on a.username = 'anonymous' and b.username = 'authenticated' and a.action = b.action where b.username is not null) and username = 'anonymous';
[09:08:44.134270]<doki_pen>gotta get lunch
[09:09:00.234061]<jhammel>GET /lunch
[09:09:08.357210]<jhammel>POST /bail
[09:09:12.592674]<doki_pen>haha, actually not yet
[09:09:40.405563]<jhammel>well, good luck in the cooler then
[09:09:46.103032]<doki_pen>haha
[09:09:49.802295]<doki_pen>cooler?
[09:10:21.454387]<jhammel>doki_pen: http://www.thefreedictionary.com/cooler definition 3
[09:10:57.533052]<doki_pen>ah, POST /bail.
[09:10:59.591285]*doki_pen is a dope
[09:11:24.225141]<doki_pen>what are you all having for lunch?
[09:11:35.491844]<jhammel>a mediocre burrito
[09:11:50.090954]<doki_pen>jhammel: ah, had one yesterday
[09:12:02.985371]<doki_pen>jhammel: I'm thinking sub
[09:12:04.293973]<jhammel>i'm used to SF where i got good burritos
[09:12:12.362489]<jhammel>i know its been a few years...but still!
[09:12:13.241527]<doki_pen>jhammel: where are you now?
[09:12:24.656921]<jhammel>doki_pen: NYC
[09:12:34.573334]<doki_pen>jhammel: haha
[09:13:12.813904]<jhammel>doki_pen: its the little things in life
[09:13:37.193532]<doki_pen>we have some badass chilian sandwiches here in boston
[09:14:02.342279]<doki_pen>and also the world's #1 sandwich: http://www.samlagrassas.com/
[09:14:06.009695]<doki_pen>which is a little pricy
[09:14:11.659185]<doki_pen>s/cy/cey/
[09:14:11.728405]<evil_twin>doki_pen meant: which is a little pricey
[09:20:12.813688]<mpedersen>Making good progress with writing my plugin that I've been asking questions for. Should have the trac half done either tonight or tomorrow night.
[09:20:48.851103]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8595 (Add IDs to the labels in the ticket modification form) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8595#comment:2> - rblank
[09:20:53.849713]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8599 (possibility to send complete tickets per mail (full history and ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8599#comment:1> - cboos
[09:20:58.850185]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8504]: 0.11-stable: Improved the documentation for `[trac] default_handler` as ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8504> - rblank
[09:21:01.611349]*jhammel forgets if you can do s///s on other people
[09:21:03.849772]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracIni edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni?version=146> - rblank
[09:35:49.397067]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracOnWindowsIisAjp edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnWindowsIisAjp?version=26> - wilfred.berger@…
[09:51:35.835255]<dandre>is there any way to set To field for email notification as for cc ?
[09:52:53.549835]<thansen>doki_pen: sorry, had to leave for a few..
[09:53:02.712382]<thansen>I'll have a looksy at those queries
[10:05:51.519355]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7082 ([PATCH] Enable environments to attempt to upgrade automatically) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7082#comment:15> - osimons
[10:08:21.393976]<maxamillion>I'm trying to setup trac for a svn repo that already exists and I run the 'trac-admin /var/www/trac/php_dev initenv' command and it runs through but then errors ----> http://fpaste.org/XsAF/
[10:08:25.822603]<maxamillion>any ideas?
[10:15:51.582489]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8505]: 0.11-stable: Fixed the test for replacing attachments, which should be ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8505> - rblank
[10:15:56.582946]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8592 ('Replace attachment of same name' visible even though user has not enough ...) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8592#comment:4> - rblank
[10:19:21.560217]<mpedersen>hmmm... any info on when trac 0.12 is coming out?
[10:19:37.675729]<cH40z-Lord>I want a script like evil_twin has too
[10:19:42.792867]<cH40z-Lord>how can I realize that ?
[10:19:48.060362]<cH40z-Lord>is there any plugin or rss-feed for that ?
[10:23:18.313670]<mpedersen>cH40z-Lord: http://trac.edgewall.org/timeline?build=on&ticket=on&changeset=on&milestone=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss
[10:23:53.235810]<cH40z-Lord>ah :) thank you
[10:24:04.907137]<cH40z-Lord>format=rss :D
[10:24:07.694371]<cH40z-Lord>this is no real rss xP
[10:24:58.095448]<mpedersen>Dunno, it certainly looks real enough to Firefox.
[10:26:09.381120]<cH40z-Lord>I'm using chrome... :D
[10:26:15.626309]<cH40z-Lord>let me see it in firefox.. :P
[10:28:36.741227]<cH40z-Lord>hm... I can't see it in firefox because it's not a real XML...
[10:28:49.959990]<jerome>hi there. I'm looking for an addon, which might be a svn hook, that allows ticket update on post-commit depending on the commit message. Does it ring a bell for someone ?
[10:29:17.606335]<jerome>I can't find it again now that I'd like to try it
[10:31:24.337711]<mpedersen>cH40z-Lord: Like I said, works fine for me. FF3.5, Linux.
[10:31:43.255431]<cH40z-Lord>FF3.5 windows :P
[10:32:06.419356]<cH40z-Lord>if I visit the page FF wants to add the link as dynamic bookmark :O
[10:32:50.291461]<cH40z-Lord>ah
[10:32:53.570593]<cH40z-Lord>but IE works fine :)
[10:33:05.621418]<jerome>ok, I saw it first in the goddam sources.
[10:55:51.361119]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8592 ('Replace attachment of same name' visible even though user has not enough ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8592#comment:5> - cboos
[10:58:50.342838]<doki_pen>jerome: did you get your answer
[10:59:57.523933]<jerome>doki_pen: yep, I remembered I saw the script in the source, so I'm playing with it now
[11:05:15.188606]<mpedersen>Okay, so, in case anybody is interested, the plugin I'm working on is being hosted at http://www.insidetrac.org/ and will help someone keep their own database of tickets, and link tickets from other issue trackers (not necessarily just Trac).
[11:05:37.826870]<mpedersen>Already got an RSS feed reader mostly done, and will finish that tonight or tomorrow night.
[11:07:01.798100]<mpedersen>Planning on adding GreaseMonkey integration, and just wound up finding the nicest way to do it, I think: On installing the InsideTrac plugin, it will then add a link (insidetrac.user.js) that the user can click, and the page sent to the browser will show up with the url for that trac instance.
[11:29:45.959272]<thansen>anyone know how I can get rid of this.../usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/MySQLdb/__init__.py:34: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated
[11:29:46.111138]<thansen> from sets import ImmutableSet
[11:30:02.041610]<thansen>is there an updated version or way to supress those warnings?
[11:34:05.859478]<mpedersen>That's coming from the MySQL connector and the fact that you're on Python 2.6. Until the MySQL connector is updated to not use sets, you're kind of stuck.
[11:34:34.858635]<thansen>mpedersen: there aren't any updates to the mysql connector?
[11:35:05.599784]<mpedersen>In which case, there's not really any option.
[11:35:17.750870]<mpedersen>Unless you want to downgrade to python2.5.
[11:36:09.858705]*thansen wonders if 1.2.3 fixes this
[11:36:27.007091]<mpedersen>1.2.3 of ... ?
[11:37:09.503629]<jhammel>lotus
[11:37:55.962611]<thansen>mysql-python :)
[11:37:55.979577]<mpedersen>thansen: http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.6.html quote: "sets module has been deprecated; it’s better to use the built-in set and frozenset types."
[11:41:33.225610]<thansen>yeah, 1.2.3 of mysql-python has fixed this
[11:42:21.575800]<mpedersen>there you go then. updated MySQL connector :)
[11:43:58.330098]<thansen>mpedersen: yep, working better now :)
[11:44:19.162164]*thansen creating scripts to copy permissions and remove permissions
[11:44:26.530913]<thansen>tired of seeing all that crap spit out
[11:49:28.832072]<dikim33>Hi,
[11:50:57.758217]<dikim33>I have the following error when I use trac-0.11.5, subversion-1.6.3, mod_python-3.3.1-8, and python2.4.
[11:50:59.868239]<dikim33>httpd: Objects/stringobject.c:105: PyString_FromString: Assertion `str != ((void *)0)' failed.
[11:51:30.782269]<dikim33>This error is captured on /var/log/httpd/error_log
[11:52:17.060377]<dikim33>Anyone had the same problem and then get over it?
[12:12:50.784086]<WiK>anyone else use TracMenusPlugin-0.1-py2.5.egg? I've got some weird issues where buttons disapear randomly and then reapear...wanted to make sure it wasnt just me before I submit a bug request
[12:36:50.253227]<doki_pen>sweet, my irclogs logs hit google
[12:57:09.128409]<Dandre1>hello,
[12:57:51.209152]<Dandre1>I have some difficulties to send notification email to a mailing list managed by ezmlm
[12:58:04.243844]<Dandre1>has anyone succeeded?
[12:58:12.862026]<Dandre1>or tried?
[13:05:56.836593]<Dandre1>anyone ?
[13:06:51.009757]<blodan>hi, i recently updated trac to 11.5 and i was using the "os.environ['TRAC_ENV_PARENT_DIR'] = "/path/to/project/parent/dir"
[13:07:05.788054]<blodan>in the trac.fcgi file, but it seems that solution doesnt work anymore
[13:07:09.541969]<blodan>anyone have any tips? :)
[13:09:51.540245]<doki_pen>Dandre1: wrongchannel
[13:09:54.301450]<doki_pen>@wrongchannel
[13:09:54.322136]<evil_twin>wrongchannel is This channel is for Trac, the project management software. You are probably looking at the website of a project that uses Trac to run their operations. Chances are we don't know anything about their project, but try looking on their website for more specific support instructions. /list will usually show you a list of all channels on this IRC server, and you
[13:09:59.321890]<evil_twin> can also try looking there.
[13:10:09.583452]<doki_pen>!tell Dandre1 @wrongchannel
[13:10:15.753663]<doki_pen>evil_twin: you still suck
[13:10:16.441672]<Dandre1>why?
[13:10:24.588315]<evil_twin>no result for @wrongchannel
[13:10:35.553754]<doki_pen>Dandre1: who is ezmlm?
[13:10:49.293611]<Dandre1>of course I meant trac notification email
[13:10:52.925156]<doki_pen>ah, ok
[13:11:05.303099]<doki_pen>Dandre1: sorry, we constantly get strange project questions in here
[13:11:08.770535]<Dandre1>ezmlm is a mailing list manager
[13:11:16.451242]<jhammel>http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=ezmlm
[13:11:18.451056]<Dandre1>NP
[13:11:31.752570]<doki_pen>jhammel: I thought he was talking about a person
[13:11:40.289661]<jhammel>how do i cast a void * to a void ** ?
[13:11:45.017489]<jhammel>Ne1?
[13:11:50.665975]<doki_pen>haha, jackass
[13:11:56.504779]<jhammel>;)
[13:12:08.036334]<doki_pen>Dandre1: do you have any errors or anything?
[13:12:11.731223]<doki_pen>Dandre1: it should just work
[13:12:25.681499]<doki_pen>you are just sending an email off, right?
[13:12:41.299626]<Dandre1>I don't have access to the mail logs
[13:12:52.756903]<doki_pen>Dandre1: what smtp server are you sending the mail to?
[13:13:14.742781]<Dandre1>yes but it doesn't seem to be understood by ezmlm
[13:13:26.988356]<doki_pen>Dandre1: you are going directly to ezmlm?
[13:13:30.679446]<doki_pen>I doubt that would work
[13:13:49.932544]<doki_pen>I think you would have to send it from a real smtp server with an email account on that smtp server
[13:13:50.655289]<Dandre1>no I use a smtp
[13:13:59.497942]<doki_pen>what smtp server?
[13:14:03.655603]<doki_pen>local?
[13:14:06.655176]<doki_pen>public?
[13:14:07.896642]<Dandre1>mails work fine as I have tested on my address
[13:14:19.298711]<Dandre1>my isp smtp
[13:14:25.560665]<doki_pen>but some smtp servers don't just blindly trust everything on the internet
[13:14:31.432185]<doki_pen>ah, then it should work
[13:14:47.695088]<doki_pen>as a troubleshooting step, I would try sending it through gmail smtp or something similar
[13:14:54.735123]<doki_pen>see if it makes a differenct
[13:15:05.558954]<Dandre1>and the list works too as I can send mail to it
[13:15:26.409174]<jhammel>Dandre1: is the Trac from address an allowed sender?
[13:15:29.403894]<jhammel>blindly guessing
[13:15:37.435819]<doki_pen>Dandre1: are you using the right tls/password/username ?
[13:15:39.545089]<Dandre1>yes
[13:15:44.361820]<jhammel>Dandre1: but seriously, if Trac can notify people its probably a problem in other sw
[13:15:52.814680]<Dandre1>no password, no tls
[13:16:02.353396]<doki_pen>Dandre1: and that is known to work?
[13:16:15.663929]<doki_pen>Dandre1: most smpt servers won't relay mail without authentication
[13:16:22.325158]<Dandre1>yes trac can send meils to me
[13:16:30.251581]<doki_pen>Dandre1: because you are on the smtp server
[13:16:34.587766]<doki_pen>Dandre1: that is the difference
[13:16:39.994235]<doki_pen>Dandre1: you need to configure tls
[13:16:56.713406]<doki_pen>mail servers have to accept mail to their own users without authentication
[13:17:00.645316]<doki_pen>or it wouldn't work
[13:17:32.515880]<Dandre1>it is my isp smtp
[13:17:45.054236]<Dandre1>and trac can send mail
[13:17:53.901655]<Dandre1>but not to my list
[13:18:03.527660]<doki_pen>Dandre1: ok, so anytime you send an email to your isps domain, it works. but when you try to send outside, like the mailing list, it fails. right?
[13:18:28.167158]<doki_pen>Dandre1: if so, that is exactly what happens if you don't setup authentication
[13:18:35.118664]<doki_pen>Dandre1: which you need to do
[13:18:57.210132]<doki_pen>k
[13:19:40.861063]<doki_pen>Dandre1: think about it, if your isps smtp just relayed any mail that came to it without authentication, what would stop spammers from sending all their mail through your isp. all they have to do is the the from header to your email.
[13:19:52.922806]<Dandre1>no that is not the cas
[13:20:10.880164]<Dandre1>I can send mail to every domain
[13:20:16.808113]<doki_pen>with trac?
[13:20:26.750854]<Dandre1>because my ip is from there domaine
[13:20:33.435838]<Dandre1>0.11.5
[13:20:51.313259]<doki_pen>trac can send notifications to any domain except the list?
[13:21:05.782197]<Dandre1>yes
[13:21:23.113996]<doki_pen>Dandre1: then it's a problem between your isps smtp and the list's smtp
[13:21:43.353693]<doki_pen>how long has it been since you've tried?
[13:21:46.418685]<Dandre1>when trac is used
[13:22:00.556341]<Dandre1>several hours
[13:22:05.514035]<doki_pen>and no bounce?
[13:22:50.192787]<doki_pen>if you don't get a bounce, then I would suggest that your isp's smtp is rejecting the email
[13:22:59.049348]<doki_pen>and you'll have to dump it to see why
[13:23:15.169860]<doki_pen>did you try turning logging all the way up?
[13:23:20.568199]<doki_pen>@logging
[13:23:20.590324]<evil_twin>logging is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[13:23:41.959920]<Dandre1>I try, login is just set to error
[13:23:49.435073]<Dandre1>error level
[13:26:40.526440]<Dandre1>another question
[13:27:07.527442]<Dandre1>I had installed TracUserPagePlugin on my 0.11.4
[13:27:40.800671]<Dandre1>worked fine but after upgrading, I get recursion error
[13:40:57.626458]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8088 (Allow a WikiFormatted Custom Ticket Field Parse Through the Wiki Engine in ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8088#comment:5> - rblank
[13:56:03.869081]<s14ck>hi *
[14:04:00.283151]<s14ck>Can I have multiples repos of severals diferents projects in the same trac instance?
[14:04:44.487763]<wildintellect>ah not on a default install - one trac site per 1 repo
[14:05:22.960935]<wildintellect>you can easily share users amongst several trac sites though
[14:07:07.975934]<jhammel>wildintellect: sorta
[14:07:14.656918]<jhammel>wildintellect: unless you know something i don't know
[14:07:38.401592]<wildintellect>well I seem to recall the install docs only letting you link to one repo
[14:07:55.474099]<jhammel>wildintellect: no i meant about sharing users
[14:08:13.345312]<jhammel>s14ck, wildintellect: though there is a multirepo branch
[14:08:25.533636]<wildintellect>oh well you can use the same password file or auth system for multiple sites
[14:08:37.670131]<jhammel>wildintellect: sure, but you lose the meta-data
[14:08:39.103861]<wildintellect>thanks I was looking for the name to that branch
[14:08:44.795153]<jhammel>(working on it, i swear!)
[14:09:12.064055]<wildintellect>you mean like permissions?
[14:09:21.993704]<jhammel>wildintellect: no, i want permissions to be separate
[14:09:35.972067]<jhammel>wildintellect: but i want user preferences, especially email, to be cross-environment
[14:09:43.931771]<s14ck>jhammel, by repo?
[14:09:58.095953]<wildintellect>ah, I've never tried to keep any user metadata
[14:09:58.620657]<jhammel>s14ck: ?
[14:11:01.826086]<wildintellect>jhammel, although I've seen it all run out of LDAP, so theoretically that info would be in there
[14:11:02.712792]<s14ck>jhammel, nevermind
[14:11:40.320423]<s14ck><jhammel> s14ck, wildintellect: though there is a multirepo branch <- 0.12?
[14:12:03.263785]<jhammel>s14ck: well, you can check out an old version
[14:12:20.507900]<jhammel>s14ck: but really, you should use trunk. and have a lot of hope and faith ;)
[14:12:27.794176]<jhammel>s14ck: if its really worth doing
[14:14:31.193949]<s14ck>jhammel, is there some date for release?
[14:14:39.351399]<jhammel>s14ck: not sure
[14:15:39.190309]<s14ck>jhammel, I really wanna try it in a production env. But trunk version... I don't know
[14:15:53.144880]<jhammel>s14ck: i can't say i blame you
[14:17:13.990771]<jhammel>anyone use http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/RecaptchaRegisterPlugin ?
[14:38:36.416293]<pacopablo>doki_pen: I have one
[14:38:38.903987]<pacopablo>you need it?
[14:38:54.088735]<pacopablo>it's for gentoo, haven't looked at how easy it would be to migrate to some other system
[14:54:25.047434]<dikim33_>Hi, for the multiple trac instances, what kind of setup do you recommend? trac.fcgi mod_wsgi, or mod_python?
[14:58:37.442925]<dikim33_>any performance differences among them?
[14:58:53.292025]<pacopablo>dikim33_: if there is it's fairly insignificant
[14:59:16.625892]<pacopablo>s/it's/it should be/
[14:59:16.684693]<evil_twin>pacopablo meant: dikim33_: if there is it should be fairly insignificant
[15:05:59.473477]<evil_twin>t.e.o: 8159-href-empty-base-r8501.patch attached to Ticket #8159 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/8159/8159-href-empty-base-r8501.patch> - rblank
[15:16:00.092606]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8159 (req.href can generate empty URLs) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8159#comment:4> - rblank
[15:26:00.430127]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8600 (Better documentation for TracIni macro) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8600> - Ryan Ollos <ryano@…>
[15:56:01.233959]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8506]: 0.11-stable: Register the `Chrome` redirection listener as late as ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8506> - rblank
[15:56:06.234306]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8583 (infinite redirect loop) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8583#comment:6> - rblank
[15:56:11.237858]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8583 (infinite redirect loop) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8583#comment:7> - rblank
[16:11:02.505618]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8507]: 0.12dev: Merged [8504-8506] from 0.11-stable. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8507> - rblank
[16:16:02.220482]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8508]: 0.12dev: Prevent [8503] from being merged from 0.11-stable. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8508> - rblank
[16:41:21.302832]<doki_pen>pacopablo: perfect, I use gentoo
[16:56:03.221157]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8599 (possibility to send complete tickets per mail (full history and ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8599#comment:2> - Ryan Ollos <ryano@…>
[17:06:04.749337]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8509]: 0.12dev: In ticket queries, changed "contains" matching for the `keywords` ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8509> - rblank
[17:06:09.746751]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #4775 (Filtering tickets by multiple keywords) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4775#comment:6> - rblank
[17:06:14.747003]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #4775 (Filtering tickets by multiple keywords) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/4775#comment:7> - rblank
[17:07:41.865021]<pacopablo>doki_pen: coming your way (via email)
[17:21:12.299043]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8590 (Signature of has_permission in MockPerm differs from PermissionCache) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8590#comment:3> - rblank
[18:13:31.273622]<einz1>vrjuggler users someone here?
[19:21:49.539833]<mpedersen>Any chance someone can point me to which interface to implement to write my own command from trac-admin?
[19:43:50.624689]<Loopa>hi, can I easly see timeline entries done by me? like all ticket...closed by me
[20:09:44.285975]<zing>is there a way to make the timestamp the default shown and the "pretty" timestamp the hover feature?
[20:10:21.766622]<zing>I've had two users complain to me on how to show the real timestamp date/time... not even realizing the hover feature.
[20:27:32.389273]<mpedersen>Any chance anybody would know how to tell setuptools an additional URL to look for packages from within a setup.py?
[20:28:10.104102]<mpedersen>I've got a package I'm almost ready to publish, but it has a dependency on another package that is not on PyPI, , and I need to tell my setup.py where to find it.
[21:36:17.986298]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8592 ('Replace attachment of same name' visible even though user has not enough ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8592#comment:6> - Ryan Ollos <ryano@…>
[21:57:26.819925]<mpedersen>Okay, here's a truly obscene one to consider: I want to serve up some dynamic javascript. Specifically, I want the javascript I send to have a reference to the base url of the trac instance. Any known way to do so?
[22:08:46.804739]<asmodai>coderanger____: dudie
[22:09:10.778764]<coderanger____>yo yo
[22:09:17.862453]<asmodai>coderanger____: How's life?
[22:09:36.047617]<coderanger>T-3 days and counting >_<
[22:09:58.345962]<asmodai>w00
[22:10:00.341766]<asmodai>crunch days
[23:36:21.185057]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8510]: Make a few more comments internal ones. Hints about the ticket structure ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8510> - cboos
[23:52:11.806864]<kirean>pacopablo: still no irc-logs?