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[00:01:42.536888]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8644 (Missing character encoding in <html> tag) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8644#comment:3> - cboos
[00:06:41.469669]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8625 (Drop SQLite2 support) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8625#comment:11> - cboos
[00:36:42.015250]<evil_twin>t.e.o: sqlite-get_supported_schemes.2 attached to Ticket #8625 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/8625/sqlite-get_supported_schemes.2> - cboos
[00:48:04.237135]<Guest93209>hi, i am getting this error
[00:48:13.977182]<Guest93209>AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ssl'
[00:49:26.496380]<kirean>Guest93209: when doing what?
[00:50:00.546405]<Guest93209>i had a trac user, but he was not using trac since last 6 month
[00:50:08.095148]<Guest93209>he requested me to reset his passwd
[00:50:18.113082]<Guest93209>i resetted it
[00:50:45.906044]<Guest93209>he is able to login but getting error
[00:50:49.666252]<Guest93209>Error:Forbidden
[00:50:49.997620]<Guest93209>TICKET_VIEW privileges are required to perform this operation
[00:50:50.017917]<Guest93209>Error:Forbidden
[00:50:50.037395]<Guest93209>TICKET_CREATE privileges are required to perform this operation
[00:51:18.497595]<Guest93209>i have delted that user from htpassword and created a new user with same name
[00:51:42.071341]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8646 (Remove support for obsolete DB bindings) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8646#comment:3> - cboos
[00:51:44.722161]<kirean>@inform Guest93209 wiki TracPermissions
[00:51:47.069736]<evil_twin>Guest93209: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions
[00:51:52.001951]<snoopotic>:)
[00:52:05.229759]<snoopotic>you have to add permissions to that user :)
[00:52:06.025397]<Guest93209>but this time i am getting this error
[00:52:17.166305]<Guest93209> Trac detected an internal error:
[00:52:17.185826]<Guest93209>AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'ssl'
[00:52:28.230924]<kirean>Guest93209: when doing what?
[00:53:27.731174]<Guest93209>not remember
[00:54:29.282831]<Guest93209>what should i do now
[00:55:33.067444]<snoopotic>try to explain that problem in a way that others (we) can reproduce that.
[00:56:02.825926]<snoopotic>like "i klick here an there and woops then that error appears"
[00:56:26.263639]<Guest93209>oh, sorry
[00:56:33.418084]<Guest93209>thanks Snoopotic
[00:57:46.081221]<Guest93209>after login i clicked on New Ticket and got above error
[00:58:13.609154]<Guest93209>then i clicked on View Tickets, Browse Source and all options
[00:58:15.721063]<Guest93209>same error
[00:59:14.134417]<ext>Hi, I'm running trac 0.11.5 and I just had a spambot edit a ticket and filling the fields with junk. Is there a way to revert those changes? (Manually is fine if someone walk me through the steps)
[00:59:49.110299]<Guest93209>http://pastebin.com/d65d841a0
[01:01:08.592184]<sabre2th>ext: does this help? http://elfstone.nl/2009/04/18/trac-spam/
[01:01:28.246128]<sabre2th>but there is no undo or history left after that
[01:01:38.370368]<sabre2th>(of the spam)
[01:02:11.530136]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8644 (Missing character encoding in <html> tag) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8644#comment:4> - cboos
[01:05:57.687214]<ext>sabre2th: partially, it removed the comment but the description etc is still junk from the spammer
[01:06:42.326175]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8577]: Also speficy the character encoding in the document itself. This avoids ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8577> - cboos
[01:06:47.325819]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8644 (Missing character encoding in <html> tag) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8644#comment:5> - cboos
[01:07:01.374247]<snoopotic>Guest98709: which trac-version do you use? Your informations are still rare. What I can tell you that it seems nobody here currently knows that eror-message. try to search it with a search engine of your choose. It seems a Problem with a third-party plugin, maybe you want to tell us whixh you use. (pastebin them or so)
[01:08:22.345450]<sabre2th>ext: well, to prevent this in the future, maybe you can set it so unregistered users cannot change it? or maybe only admins?
[01:08:52.658677]<sabre2th>as for the description change, you can change it back manually I think
[01:09:46.973315]<ext>sabre2th: well, I'd like unregistred users to edit tickets and I use mathcaptcha to prevent spammers (which usually works)
[01:13:04.591181]<ext>I'll just manually edit the database (looking at a backup), thanks for the help!
[01:13:25.083201]<sabre2th>yw
[01:13:45.922035]<sabre2th>I also installed a plugin btw
[01:15:12.939123]<sabre2th>for spam filtering, I don't know what the name is
[01:15:28.605609]<sabre2th>probably this one: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SpamFilter
[01:15:35.021920]<sabre2th>works pretty good
[01:16:27.630896]<sabre2th>anyway, fk
[01:16:31.225760]<sabre2th>afk
[01:22:19.030387]<bionoid>Hello folks. I'm using an ITemplateStreamFilter that inserts a template fragment, like "return stream | Transformer(..).before(self.create_fragment)". Is it possible to reach data in stream from the fragment template? Specifically the request is /milestone/../?action=edit, and I want to get the milestone details from the original request, without parsing req.path_info and fetching it (again) from the database.
[01:47:40.147266]<ablmf>I am using sqlite as backend db for my TRAC, but it now runs really slow. Is it possible to move to postgresql without losing data?
[01:48:06.358687]<kirean>migrating to postgresql won't speed thinks up
[01:48:19.134639]<kirean>it will just help if you have multiple simultanous users
[01:48:27.569242]<kirean>s/thinks/things
[01:52:17.626899]<ablmf>kirean: OK, then how about move from mod_python to fastCGI ?
[02:12:43.480661]<bionoid>ablmf: I had a noticable speed increase moving from mod_python to mod_wsgi. In my case, though, serving it up with a standalone tracd outperformed mod_python by a margin. I suggest you try that (quickly), and if it helps, go for fcgi/wsgi.
[02:18:01.993199]<rblank>osimons: Around?
[02:26:18.774846]<rblank>cmlenz: Hi! Do you happen to be around?
[02:26:58.579019]<rblank>cmlenz: It seems that t.e.o is in trouble again. cboos doesn't have access to the server yet, and I couldn't contact osimons.
[02:27:23.465105]<cboos>hello
[02:27:28.285241]<rblank>Hi!
[02:27:36.629737]<rblank>cmlenz doesn't seem to reply.
[02:27:50.565235]<cboos>ok, I'll try nevertheless
[02:28:27.130308]<cboos>cmlenz: howdy, I haven't sent the ssh keys to jonas yet, so if you happen to have 5 minutes for another gdb session, it would be great
[02:28:42.265986]<cboos>(I forgot to look for one or two things last time)
[02:29:07.450890]<cboos>... and yes, it seems we have another occurrence of the same problem today
[02:30:53.861731]<cmlenz>hold on
[02:34:27.299037]<cmlenz>there's no one obvious candidate this time AFAICT, a couple of FCGI processes using lots of CPU
[02:35:56.566840]<cboos>that come and go?
[02:35:59.917231]<cmlenz>here's gdb st output for one of them: http://scratchpad.cmlenz.net/1c13dabaadf8d6710c2e994c434d6247/
[02:36:19.122009]<cboos>isn't there one which sticks at a high cpu rate for a long time?
[02:36:35.119054]<cmlenz>if they come and go, it happens very slowly
[02:36:54.312898]<cmlenz>there are a couple, using around 40%-70% CPU
[02:37:04.870393]<cboos>re: 1c13dabaa... that's not a problematic one
[02:37:29.744370]<cmlenz>ok
[02:38:09.419124]<cmlenz>around 65 idle PG processes
[02:38:42.766949]<cboos>still looking at munin, I see that there's a high CPU usage
[02:38:47.379153]<cboos>http://sushi.edgewall.com/munin/edgewall.com/lynx.edgewall.com.html#Processes
[02:39:05.162902]<cboos>also a peak in context switches
[02:40:28.545245]<cboos>and in http://sushi.edgewall.com/munin/edgewall.com/lynx.edgewall.com-irqstats.html
[02:40:56.162701]<cboos>the "Rescheduling interrupts" is at 3.57k, instead of 220.59 average
[02:41:10.641589]<jborg>cmlenz: you there?
[02:41:23.011274]<cboos>hello jonas, yes, he's around ;-)
[02:41:48.748087]<jborg>I stopped lighttpd on teo before I noticed that he was logged in and running gdb
[02:42:02.753230]<jborg>so I probably messed something up :(
[02:42:46.249791]<cboos>when I'll be able to log there, I propose that we use some file to log manually what we're doing
[02:43:28.858989]<jborg>yeah
[02:43:41.177230]<cboos>something like /Changelog ->containing lines like (date) cboos: doing stuff ...
[02:43:42.290933]<jborg>and coordinate things on #trac
[02:44:14.158819]<jborg>yeah we used to have excatly that before but not used that often
[02:44:29.594722]<cboos>yep, and sorry, I haven't found the time yet to generate the keys and look how to use them in putty
[02:44:34.710418]<jborg>btw you still haven't sent me any ssh key, right?
[02:44:40.330319]<cboos>right
[02:45:43.273248]<cboos>so what happened today I think is just another problem like we had last week, described in #7785
[02:46:14.090757]<cboos>i.e. I'd rather blame a problem with the svn bindings than the postgres side
[02:46:46.701551]<cboos>those trac.fcgi processes, are they multi-threaded?
[02:47:31.422549]<cboos>last time with cmlenz, in the gdb session, I forgot to ask him to do "info threads", to see if we were in a dead-lock
[02:47:38.818145]<EugenMayer>how to set the max. upload size of attachments
[02:47:55.302396]<cboos>though usually in a dead-lock you don't have max cpu usage, ...
[02:50:08.761572]<cboos>EugenMayer: see TracIni#attachment-section
[02:50:30.590784]<cboos>@wiki TracIni#section-attachment
[02:50:34.055312]<evil_twin>http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni#section-attachment
[02:50:54.767893]<cboos>@wiki TracIni#attachment-section
[02:50:54.844569]<evil_twin>http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni#attachment-section
[02:51:42.869528]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8443 (postgres and "IDLE in transaction" status) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8443#comment:14> - tod@…
[02:51:44.782266]<jborg>cboos: yes trac.fcgi should be multi-threaded as far as I know
[02:51:47.870340]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8443 (postgres and "IDLE in transaction" status) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8443#comment:15> - anonymous
[02:51:52.871346]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8646 (Remove support for obsolete DB bindings) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8646#comment:4> - rblank
[02:53:08.496177]<cboos>jborg: but it should be a regular single interpreter model, can't be multi-interp fun like in mod_python/wsgi, right?
[02:53:49.606399]<jborg>cboos: since we didn't see this problem before r8281 it would be interesting to revert that change and see what happens
[02:53:57.475387]<jborg>yes a single interpreter
[02:55:03.314912]<cboos>well, reverting r8281 would just re-introduce the possibility for another similar error, I don't think it will fix that one
[02:55:52.766863]<cboos>if we call apr_terminate, and then /later/ during finalization there's a call to apr_pool_destroy (done by the bindings)... perhaps not that good.
[02:56:24.037287]<cboos>not to mention the second call to apr_terminate, scheduled by the svn bindings to be done in the at_exit handler
[02:57:27.046870]<cboos>as that second call would eventually produce a similar "issue" with locks (max CPU usage in _lll_lock_wait)
[02:58:18.579044]<cboos>but the trouble is, I don't really know if this "issue" is a deadlock, or just using the mutex primitives on some invalid lock, or some kind of bug in the glibc ...
[02:59:06.517719]<cboos>so a little live gdb session could help, I'm just a bit tight on time this week
[02:59:41.113173]<cboos>so let's hope we see the problem again /next week/ ;-)
[03:02:18.138920]<rblank>Even better would be to reproduce the issue on an /off-line/ server ;-)
[03:03:24.038922]<cboos>well, it needs to be a quite similar setup then
[03:04:36.431370]<jborg>yeah, but I suspect it might not be that easy to reliably reproduce...
[03:05:02.036989]<cboos>but why not, sure that would certainly help a lot (same can be said for the "performance" bug #7490)
[03:05:26.607210]<cboos>jborg: I think we would just need to stress-test the server
[03:05:52.981967]<cboos>generating tons of requests on small pages like /browser/trunk/README
[03:17:02.466206]<osimons>morning people. ah t.e.o. debugging again. i see.
[03:24:45.838391]<czr>silly question, is there an easy way to enlargen the preview icons made by mimeviewer?
[03:24:59.166826]<czr>(running 0.11 here)
[03:41:46.619224]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8646 (Remove support for obsolete DB bindings) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8646#comment:5> - cboos
[04:36:44.573910]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8646 (Remove support for obsolete DB bindings) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8646#comment:6> - rblank
[04:49:12.746082]<lola>haisup
[04:50:30.678336]<lola>I have a website using shared hosting - thus installing trac on the webserver is impractical - is there a easy solution where I can install trac locally, but with all commits to a certain directory (the webroot inside the trunk) being uploaded by FTP?
[05:07:04.359820]<lola>Hmm - is trac primarily a parser and displayer of a pretty-version of SCM files e.g. SVN logs etc. ?
[05:07:13.214134]<lola>I'm thinking - perhaps that task would be up to SVN
[05:21:44.898560]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #2672 (Trac is trying to diff binary content) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2672#comment:27> - batrick
[05:24:10.166837]<snoopotic>lola: to show up changes of the svn in trac you use the svn commit-hook scripts. to run trac "externally" you may try out nfs-mounts to the trac-attachment-store and use an external/central database.
[05:25:05.273350]<lola>Well, I don't *think* nfs would apply - the changes would be submitted over the Internet, probably via FTP or some sort
[05:26:13.885779]<lola>Basically I want svn + trac locally, but to keep a copy of (a specific part of) the repository updated on a remote server
[05:33:41.474809]<lola>Yes, think that's separate from trac
[05:37:45.620645]<snoopotic>well... to use trac properly I suggest to use a dedicated instance
[05:39:58.388013]<lola>As far as trac would be concerned there'd be only one instance/repository
[05:51:45.165823]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #2672 (Trac is trying to diff binary content) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2672#comment:28> - rblank
[06:11:45.401849]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8240 (Can not set completion date on milestone due to timezone daylight saving) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8240#comment:6> - Jappie <jappie@…>
[06:16:57.586301]<wild_oscar>hey, I'm quite new to trac. I currently have version 11.5 installed and was trying to install some plugins
[06:17:27.942964]<wild_oscar>do I need to perform anything after easy_install'ing it?
[06:17:41.917817]<wild_oscar>I was trying to install the accountmanagerplugin - http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/AccountManagerPlugin
[06:18:04.793974]<wild_oscar>I easy_installed it but I don't see any change in the plugins section of the web_admin interface
[06:18:56.165917]<wild_oscar>also, I have a Trac 0.11.5 dropdown list in the "manage plugins", but the checkboxes are disabled - any idea why?
[06:26:45.538202]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #5474 (Translation of Trac to French/Français [fr_FR]) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5474#comment:36> - Gabriel Lavoie <glavoie@…>
[06:36:28.099020]<bionoid>wild_oscar: If you install a plugin locally (ie copy the .egg to plugins/ folder) you don't need to do anything extra. If, OTOH, you install the egg globally, you need to activate it in the trac.ini of each instance that should use it (somepluginname.* = enabled in [components])
[06:36:45.699344]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8647 (Streamline DB Connection API) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8647> - anatoly techtonik <techtonik@…>
[06:36:50.699291]<evil_twin>t.e.o: connection.wrapper.2.db.api.patch attached to Ticket #8647 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/8647/connection.wrapper.2.db.api.patch> - anatoly techtonik <techtonik@…>
[06:37:11.737524]<wild_oscar>bionoid: if I just run easy_install http://trac-hacks.org/svn/accountmanagerplugin/0.1 from the shell, am I installing it globally?
[06:37:19.081148]<bionoid>Yes.
[06:37:29.074598]<wild_oscar>let me test it :)
[06:38:13.582569]<wild_oscar>in the meantime, regarding the web admin - shouldn't I be able to enable/disable plugins by throttling the checkbox state?
[06:38:24.417557]<wild_oscar>(ie, why are they disabled?)
[06:40:05.813704]<bionoid>wild_oscar: What plugins are you talking about? -- maybe your webserver needs write access to the trac.ini so it can save?
[06:44:02.796025]<wild_oscar>bionoid: sorry, I meant components
[06:44:14.674583]<b1z1>hi
[06:44:44.166285]<b1z1>I need help :(
[06:44:51.134055]<wild_oscar>bionoid: how do I know the exact plugin name (as accountmanager.* = enabled is not working)
[06:45:36.178429]<skarka>what does mean is not working?
[06:45:44.653297]<skarka>it
[06:46:10.062351]<bionoid>wild_oscar: acct_mgr IIRC
[06:46:12.217149]<b1z1>not with trac with "Transhosh" - I am in the wrong IRC right ?
[06:46:44.554062]<skarka>is there some body who use AccountManagerPlugin with httpauthsore?
[06:46:52.373875]<bionoid>wild_oscar: Yes you should be able to disable (some, not all) components of Trac (if that's what you mean), but as I said that needs trac.ini to be writeable by the webserver. (someone correct me if this is not right)
[06:46:52.696906]<skarka>store
[06:48:59.334683]<skarka>is there some body who use AccountManagerPlugin with httpauthsore?
[06:49:23.389941]<skarka>is there some body who use AccountManagerPlugin with httpauthstore? <= correct version
[06:58:30.366954]*retracile growls something grouchy about mornings.
[07:25:12.943035]<dikim33>Hi, I posted my problem on the irc yesterday but I could not get any answer yet. Please don't get mad at the duplicated posting.
[07:25:57.094461]<dikim33>My problem is that milestone entries do not show up on the admin page even though they are in the back-end db and I can query on trac-admin too.
[07:27:16.173989]<workPragmatist>how can I render large documents instead of getting "HTML preview not available, since the file size exceeds 262144 bytes. You may download the file instead. "
[07:27:35.731119]<dikim33>I can see the blank entries in the milestones of the admin page with the corresponding radio buttons and check-mark but the milestone entries do not display. :-(
[07:28:07.110503]<workPragmatist>I've done this "render_unsafe_content = true"
[07:28:30.962047]<workPragmatist>this wacky number isn't even in the ini... 262144
[07:29:41.493684]<workPragmatist>hrm this is an old school issue
[07:29:55.502770]<workPragmatist>http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1921
[07:30:44.218662]<wild_oscar>in the accountmanager plugin, what options should I use if I want users to be able to login with svn credentials - if I store these credentials in plain text /svn/passwd file?
[07:45:34.746900]<roh>workPragmatist checked the attachmentsize in the ini?
[07:45:50.246382]<roh>just because your ini is missing something doesnt mean it does not fall back to detault
[07:45:52.246023]<roh>default
[07:46:46.283114]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8625 (Drop SQLite2 support) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8625#comment:12> - anatoly techtonik <techtonik@…>
[07:47:59.003184]<workPragmatist>roh: i have those two items in the ini
[07:48:14.059239]<workPragmatist>otherwise i wouldn't have been able to upload the file to begin with
[07:48:37.989163]<roh>well.. allowing uploads and previewing are 2 different limits
[07:49:44.386125]<roh>max_preview_size in the [mimeviewer] section is displaying
[07:50:03.434709]<roh>max_size in [attachment] is for uploading/storing
[07:50:16.806151]<workPragmatist>oh mimeviewer setion
[07:51:20.894177]<workPragmatist>thanks
[07:52:22.133851]<roh>;)
[07:54:22.223275]<workPragmatist>is there something i need to do once this is changed
[07:54:39.686239]<workPragmatist>I haven't messed with this in so long... i reloaded apache for fun and it still has the same issue
[07:54:44.973274]<workPragmatist>is there some cache?
[07:55:25.327369]<workPragmatist>the number doesn't correspond to whats in trac.ini
[07:55:55.006098]<workPragmatist>http://pastie.org/609652
[07:56:16.962762]<workPragmatist>does it have to be in the mime map?
[08:21:17.429697]<AlexanderSupertr>i can't subscribe to RSS on trac I have set up
[08:21:30.859347]<AlexanderSupertr>Google Reader gives me : The feed being requested cannot be found.
[08:21:59.234077]<AlexanderSupertr>i checked wiki to find out if some settings are there
[08:22:15.717763]<AlexanderSupertr>but it says all i have to do is to click the orage icon
[08:22:26.241510]<AlexanderSupertr>can someone help?
[08:28:26.313285]<AlexanderSupertr>am i in wrong channel?
[08:29:12.202776]<AlexanderSupertr>rephrase: asking que in wrong channel?
[08:31:46.094523]<roh>not really. just low-traffic here
[08:31:46.759223]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8644 (Missing character encoding in <html> tag) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8644#comment:6> - eblot
[08:31:56.730775]<roh>but i cannot see the problem. works fine here.
[08:32:12.105054]<wild_oscar>AlexanderSupertr: what is the feed url?
[08:32:15.121794]<roh>aslong as you allow anonymous requests
[08:33:16.741721]<AlexanderSupertr>http://trac.someserver.com/report/1?format=rss&USER=trappedintocode
[08:33:34.962683]<AlexanderSupertr>sorry, do not have permission to disclose domain name
[08:34:08.592101]<AlexanderSupertr>but other than someserver, it's exactly as I pasted
[08:34:18.738779]<roh>well.. reports can only work when you can view it anonymously.
[08:34:24.926037]<wild_oscar>is it accessible on the internet?
[08:34:32.967072]<roh>so press logout and check if your browser displays the xml
[08:34:36.523026]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: humm
[08:34:38.714626]<roh>on that url
[08:34:41.010063]<AlexanderSupertr>wild_oscar: yes
[08:34:51.114352]<AlexanderSupertr>app is working fine
[08:35:05.693785]<roh>i've hacked something 'reverse' to that for one of our trac setups here:
[08:35:43.365343]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: ok i will do that.
[08:35:48.741623]<roh>https://m21.hyte.de/timeline?ticket=on&wiki=on&blog=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss&user=anonymous
[08:36:17.471809]<roh>the user= will be checked by a custom plugin and allow access. all other access is only avail with http basic auth
[08:36:35.181800]<AlexanderSupertr>it asks me for auth
[08:36:46.795433]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8648 (remove testing/tasting images on CI and CC) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8648> - kmason
[08:37:16.110296]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: server certificate failed
[08:37:20.190843]<roh>google reader will proably not support http basic auth for fetching feeds. doesnt make much sense since it would need your user and password
[08:37:29.190797]<roh>AlexanderSupertr its ca-cert
[08:37:33.669895]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: yes
[08:37:41.306507]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: right.
[08:37:46.552100]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: thanks.
[08:38:21.295422]<AlexanderSupertr>i'll try setting anonymous access to reports
[08:38:35.313278]<roh>AlexanderSupertr you could eventually solve your google reader problem with a local planetplanet aggregator or so
[08:39:07.678309]<roh>AlexanderSupertr overriding basic-auth for anonymous access isnt a normal trac feature. i got a extra plugin in use for that
[08:39:30.426723]<AlexanderSupertr>actually i tried account manager plugin
[08:39:38.637861]<roh>could post it if you're interrested (but i'd advice some security-audit of the code before using it in cooperate)
[08:39:47.561804]<AlexanderSupertr>but i am having hard time configuring it
[08:40:02.842267]<roh>account manager just helps you administering and adding accounts
[08:40:19.297175]<roh>and gives you form based login/logout as option
[08:40:45.703924]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: it would be great if you could give me the code
[08:41:09.387142]<roh>we use form based auth, but enforce http basic auth for all rss and ics files, and override it if one adds &user=anonymous
[08:41:13.578843]<AlexanderSupertr>need to get feeds working. i liked trac
[08:41:19.938334]<roh>(the latter one is done by my plugin)
[08:41:35.374316]<AlexanderSupertr>humm
[08:43:34.070966]<wild_oscar>I actually just configured the account manager plugin
[08:43:50.417703]<wild_oscar>in the most basic form I could
[08:44:54.189675]<roh>AlexanderSupertr its a patch for httpauth plugin
[08:45:07.486012]<roh>i just checked.. wasnt sure i put that into a extra plugin
[08:45:11.605895]<roh>http://pastebin.ca/1558511 is the diff
[08:46:17.549202]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: hehe
[08:46:22.705894]<AlexanderSupertr>thats sweet
[08:46:41.397168]<AlexanderSupertr>is hould have done something like that by now
[08:47:03.752219]<AlexanderSupertr>but haven't checked the code yet, it' been just one day
[08:47:09.086734]<AlexanderSupertr>thanks.
[08:47:22.109313]<roh>we have no 'anonymous' access basically, thats all provided by a custom plugin which allows anonymous viewing of things tagged 'public'
[08:47:56.509276]<AlexanderSupertr>wild_oscar: i messed up with the settings. i think i will go over the setup again
[08:48:14.649730]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: i get it.
[08:48:26.210148]<wild_oscar>I'm having issues with this bug: http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/4125
[08:48:35.031138]<wild_oscar>I thought I had solved it, but apparently not
[08:48:36.095802]<AlexanderSupertr>i think that should solve my prob one way or the other
[08:54:24.974369]<roh>http://yamato.hyte.de/trac/tagpublicplugin_svnr49.tar.bz2
[08:54:56.639362]<roh>but beware.. thats code which is _hacky_ and needs some deeper thinking of what one wants to allow or not.
[08:56:46.931432]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8648 (remove testing/tasting images on CI and CC) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8648#comment:1> - eblot
[09:03:34.714957]<AlexanderSupertr>roh: will remember that. thanks.
[09:46:24.869313]<seekwill>Hello!
[09:47:24.349510]<seekwill>I normally install Trac on CentOS 5.3 by installing python-setuptools, then running easy_install Trac. This works great under 64-bit, but I noticed yesterday that under 32-bit, it doesn't install Genshi. Is this a known issue?
[10:41:50.892118]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8644 (Missing character encoding in <html> tag) reopened - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8644#comment:7> - cboos
[10:51:48.859316]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8649 (Cannot Subscribe to Timeline RSS in Google Chrome/Google Reader) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8649> - syelle@…
[10:56:48.939328]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8644 (Missing character encoding in <html> tag) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8644#comment:8> - eblot
[11:01:51.516150]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8644 (Missing character encoding in <html> tag) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8644#comment:9> - cboos
[11:41:39.057932]<dzi>Hi! Anybody using TypedTicketWorkflowPlugin?
[11:42:06.182804]<k0s>dzi: i wish ;)
[11:43:08.094693]<dzi>hi k0s. what exactly do you try to tell me with that?
[11:43:56.937843]<k0s>k0s: nothing really; only that it used to be an organizational priority here to really straighten out our business logic....and now its not, and things are a mess (IMHO)
[11:44:04.561153]<k0s>er, dzi ^
[11:44:37.830076]<dzi>;)
[11:45:00.071003]<dzi>so you never really tried it out?
[11:45:20.267192]<k0s>dzi: nope :(
[11:47:03.893326]<dzi>k0s: so obviously you are not the one to help me right now :)
[11:47:49.590630]<k0s>dzi: probably not
[11:48:39.722250]<dzi>k0s: not so bad, i just hoped to perhaps find some expert in here
[11:53:06.929763]<deadbum>is there a clear guide to moving trac to a new server?
[11:53:37.346639]<k0s>deadbum: which DB?
[11:53:50.309294]<k0s>deadbum: basically, move the project directory, move the DB and you're done
[11:54:02.854636]<k0s>deadbum: and if its SQLite, the first implies the second
[11:54:05.335464]<webPragmatist1>fosho
[11:54:05.396498]<deadbum>so it's just filesystem operations?
[11:54:16.854536]<webPragmatist1>well you have to dump the db
[11:54:25.158416]<deadbum>I believe it's mysql
[11:54:38.446157]<deadbum>so dump the db, move the project directory and it's done?
[11:55:11.613374]<webPragmatist1>and set your apache junk?
[11:55:31.989727]<deadbum>I've already staged a fresh trac on the new server
[11:55:33.401746]<deadbum>so yea
[11:55:50.390574]<webPragmatist1>i think you got it
[11:56:25.855120]<deadbum>word
[11:56:26.581607]<deadbum>thanks
[11:57:29.602370]<dzi>things sometimes are just easy :)
[11:58:27.545773]<deadbum>I imagine that even still murphy's law will rear it's ugly head
[12:24:21.881763]<PlasmaHH>hi, is there any way to import one of those formats into a trac wiki page: html, openoffice, pdf, rtf or word?
[12:24:46.647435]<k0s>PlasmaHH: html, yes; IncludeMacro
[12:24:51.095234]<k0s>dunno about the others
[12:25:33.233820]<PlasmaHH>k0s: hm, but wouldnt that include the html verbatim? I was more thinking of a conversion... like <h3> to the appropriate trac-wiki syntax etc.
[12:26:08.193991]<k0s>PlasmaHH: ah, that I don't know....guessing not
[12:26:13.246338]<k0s>html2tracwiki....i wish
[12:26:37.924483]<PlasmaHH>html2tr<TAB> ... nothing ;)
[12:27:50.417747]<PlasmaHH>I will ask google if they add trac wiki export to docs...
[12:56:50.667344]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7490 (Trac 0.11 really slow, high cpu usage) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7490#comment:99> - thereisnocowlevel@…
[13:19:11.948122]<PlasmaHH>oh, the high cpu usage is a bug, hm...
[13:29:09.022047]<gnot>hi. is there an application with which multiple trac environments can be managed? For example user management and authorization
[13:30:13.245468]<dzi>gnot: do you want to manage users for all environments at once?
[13:30:55.590929]<gnot>dzi: not just that. currently i do it with a custom interface i ve written. i would like something better
[13:31:26.146594]<gnot>gnot: basically i ve written an authenticator and use another web app for user management
[13:32:02.327595]<dzi>gnot: sounds interesting
[13:32:13.370155]<k0s>gnot: yeah, i'd probably stick with what's working
[13:32:13.429692]<Francois>hi there
[13:32:24.546020]<gnot>it would be nice if a trac manager application existed, which would handle user management/ project listings, overview pages about issues etc
[13:32:33.743328]<k0s>gnot: yes, yes it would
[13:32:36.218976]<Francois>I'm trying to install the AccountManagerPlugin on a trac install using mod_auth_pgsql
[13:32:40.790230]<k0s>gnot: and in fact, i would love to write it
[13:32:47.983042]<k0s>but have no time and its low priority :(
[13:33:04.205743]<Francois>And basicall, I can't find a way to tell the plugin to use the pgsql storage
[13:33:15.462254]<Francois>I guess it's not implemented, right?
[13:33:33.910009]<k0s>Francois: to have the plugin create the DB?
[13:33:51.809265]<k0s>Francois: you can always err out if the DB is not pg
[13:33:54.537144]<Francois>k0s: the db already exists and has lots of users
[13:34:14.952164]<gnot>k0s: i came across redmine. http://demo.redmine.org I would definitely like to see something similar for trac environments. I thought about starting a django app for this purpose, but i am not very familiar with it and it will require much time.
[13:34:17.589810]<Francois>but the account manager can't list any, nor can it add new ones
[13:34:42.541259]<k0s>gnot: again, i'd like to too, but not a priority for my company :(
[13:34:46.699121]<Francois>k0s: err out?
[13:35:28.237738]<gnot>k0s: ah are you from edgewall? i understand
[13:35:34.142850]<k0s>gnot: nope, i'm not
[13:36:26.057843]<k0s>Francois: something like http://trac-hacks.org/browser/geoticketplugin/0.11/geoticket/ticket.py#L470
[13:38:16.903033]<Francois>k0s: I guess that's Chinese to me. I'm only a Trac user, I don't know much Python, and absolutely nothing about Trac internals
[13:38:55.023288]<Francois>k0s: basically, I need to know if what I want is possible, if it's not I'll change the auth strategy
[13:39:20.037709]<k0s>Francois: i don't exactly know what you want; probably not easy without python knowledge
[13:40:13.363192]<Francois>k0s: The TicketManager plugin documentation explains various account storage strategies, but nothing about PostreSQL sorage
[13:40:32.846119]<Francois>k0s: So I assume it's not implemented
[13:40:44.506399]<k0s>Francois: no, postgresql storage is implemented
[13:41:01.701285]<Francois>k0s: for user accounts?
[13:41:20.241959]<k0s>Francois: for everything in the DB
[13:43:23.838955]<Francois>k0s: In my config, Users are not stored in the same Db as Trac data
[13:43:57.783208]<Francois>there is a specific db for user accounts, independent of Trac
[13:46:30.542113]<gnot>is it possible many trac environments to share a common database?
[13:46:46.931878]<k0s>gnot: only with DB magic
[14:03:45.553373]<pacopablo>er, what's the best way to insert &nbsp; into wiki text? [[html(&nbsp;)]] ?
[14:04:00.954090]<pacopablo>why did I think there was a macro like [[br]] for nbsp?
[14:26:47.198727]<easymac>Hello, I'm unable to figure out why I'm getting this error, I was hoping somebody could suggest some things to check. 'SQLite compiled for 3.6.14.2, but running with 3.3.7'
[14:26:51.395446]<evil_twin>t.e.o: 8625-get-supported-schemes-r8575.patch attached to Ticket #8625 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/8625/8625-get-supported-schemes-r8575.patch> - rblank
[14:26:56.398072]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8625 (Drop SQLite2 support) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8625#comment:13> - rblank
[14:26:57.298854]<easymac>It says to check trac.log, but that says just about nothing.
[14:27:40.434668]<pacopablo>easymac: well, as it happens, you have sqlite compiled for 3.6.14.2 but are running with 3.3.7 :)
[14:28:02.998069]<pacopablo>easymac: it's most likely an issue with some other apache module being compiled with a different version of sqlite
[14:28:09.413604]<pacopablo>check apr, mod_php, and the like
[14:28:18.243225]<pacopablo>there are a few tickets regarding this on t.e.o
[14:29:14.726066]<easymac>Alright. I've gone through and manually upgraded every python thing I could find, every SQLite thing I could find, and I thought every Apache thing, but I'll just rebuild them all I guess.
[14:29:45.668019]<pacopablo>one easy way to see if it's an apache thing, is to run trac using tracd
[14:29:51.454149]<pacopablo>that should get rid of the error
[14:29:58.056356]<easymac>Ah, good idea.
[14:30:00.970403]<easymac>I'll give that a shot.
[14:30:01.029926]<pacopablo>and if it does, then it's apache screwing you up
[14:30:04.330028]<easymac>Right.
[14:30:09.755989]<easymac>Thanks a bunch.
[14:30:17.486534]<oofie>hi. can anyone recommend the best way to make a trac read-only? or specifically a trac wiki?
[14:30:27.445825]<easymac>The permissions.
[14:30:37.579213]<oofie>i'm trying to setup an emergency/backup mirror of our primary trac instance in the event the primary is unreachable.
[14:31:40.389731]<oofie>i was thinking i would just give the user only select privs on the db, but dunno if that will break things.
[14:33:41.342996]<easymac>pacopablo: Yeah, tracd gets rid of the error... I'll just rebuild apache and friends.
[14:34:19.586974]<pacopablo>oofie: trac-admin env permission remove authenticated WIKI_EDIT
[14:34:31.501176]<pacopablo>oofie: or whatever other perms it has (or other users)
[14:35:30.657745]<oofie>paco thanks. i think i need to understand the relationship between http auth/privs, mysql auth/privs, and trac auth/privs first.
[14:36:51.459331]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8625 (Drop SQLite2 support) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8625#comment:14> - cboos
[14:39:12.615837]<fynn>Hi.
[14:39:12.778854]<fynn>with the trac wiki, can I make /wiki/Foo redirect to /wiki/Bar?
[14:39:52.050593]<pacopablo>fynn: I believe that there is a wiki redirect plugin on t-h.o
[14:40:00.947399]<pacopablo>fynn: but I haven't used it, so I can't say how well it works
[14:40:53.211194]<k0s>worked fine for me, last time i checked
[14:56:19.743238]<fynn>pacopablo: thanks.
[15:11:52.095182]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8578]: 0.11-stable: If the mime type of a node is not given (e.g. with a ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8578> - rblank
[15:16:54.349437]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #2672 (Trac is trying to diff binary content) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2672#comment:29> - rblank
[15:21:55.906910]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8579]: 0.11-stable: Forgot to remove a line in [8578]. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8579> - rblank
[15:27:12.372299]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8580]: 0.12dev: Merged [8578-8579] from 0.11-stable. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8580> - rblank
[15:32:14.493239]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8581]: 0.12dev: Prevent [8573] from being merged from 0.11-stable. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8581> - rblank
[15:46:58.438918]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #1233 (Descriptions of Components) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1233#comment:13> - rblank
[15:47:03.439233]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8088 (Allow a WikiFormatted Custom Ticket Field Parse Through the Wiki Engine in ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8088#comment:6> - rblank
[15:47:08.443187]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7724 (Allow user provided mime-type for attachments) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7724#comment:7> - Ryan Ollos <ryano@…>
[15:47:13.446860]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8582]: 0.11-stable: Added a mechanism for database backends to report errors ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8582> - rblank
[16:51:53.633880]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8583]: 0.12dev: Merged [8582] from 0.11-stable. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8583> - rblank
[16:56:53.702134]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8625 (Drop SQLite2 support) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8625#comment:15> - rblank
[18:47:17.096059]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7490 (Trac 0.11 really slow, high cpu usage) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7490#comment:100> - anonymous
[21:01:56.421519]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7490 (Trac 0.11 really slow, high cpu usage) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7490#comment:101> - anonymous
[23:51:57.758058]<evil_twin>t.e.o: WikiProcessors edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiProcessors?version=38> - cygon