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[00:00:48.198476]<falkb>Hi! Is there an .egg file I can install to have another language than default English? Maybe via 'Admin->Plugins->Install Plugin'? I searched the trac wiki how to install another language but got lost somewhere in those i18n detail descriptions
[00:01:32.700479]<falkb>Where is an easy description how to switch trac to another language?
[00:01:47.255800]<osimons>falkb: for trac 0.12+ it is bundled with trac, and only requires babel installed before installing trac
[00:02:53.949781]<osimons>install babel, then install trac again as it will then initiate compilation of all language catalogues
[00:03:32.367480]<osimons>after that it is the browser that usually indicates what language to serve to each user (if available)
[00:04:26.006868]<osimons>two lines, falkb... http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracInstall#Usingeasy_install
[00:04:36.705982]<falkb>aha... hmm... ok... I just use that out-of-the-box package called Bitnami-trac. I think I need to check if there is a version of it supporting more than English
[00:05:52.355725]<osimons>i see, well then that is indeed a question for the bitnami packagers
[00:06:12.781926]<falkb>Bitnami-trac is just an install.exe I can execute on a clean Windows and after that I can immediately use trac and svn
[00:06:37.155525]<falkb>the whole bundle comes with Apache+Python+svn+trac+stuff
[00:11:50.974190]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #5820 ([PATCH] standalone trac does not support IPv6) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5820#comment:19> - cboos
[00:15:13.511635]<Ad0>does trac support any form of document handling?
[00:15:20.720146]<Ad0>other than the wiki
[00:15:25.119478]<Ad0>like uploading PDFs for instance
[00:21:51.145836]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:8> - cboos
[00:26:07.541107]<osimons>Ad0: you can attach files, yes. but, would not call that proper document handling as there is no versioning involved.
[00:26:45.386739]<osimons>if so, best would be to stick your docs in a repository and make that repository available for browsing
[00:27:02.260225]<Ad0>yeah that could work
[00:27:45.684828]<Ad0>but there is no simple plugin to point a page in Trac to a dir where there are documents
[00:27:50.297591]<Ad0>so I can download list and upload
[00:31:52.124363]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #2222 (an error occurs when you click on the REV number on a trunk/) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2222#comment:4> - dstoecker
[00:36:52.128007]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10023 (Trac notification + Exchange 2010) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10023> - evgeniy.demur@…
[00:36:57.127658]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:9> - osimons
[00:41:25.590416]<osimons>Ad0: each wiki page and ticket typically has "Attach file", so you could organize files if you want. however, there is no "serve this directory" functionality, as that would also require permission handling +++ that is otherwise handled by wiki permissions
[00:41:41.909069]<osimons>(or repository permissions if you go that way)
[00:41:52.134629]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:10> - osimons
[00:43:38.290563]<Ad0>yeah
[00:43:39.749993]<Ad0>thanks :)
[00:45:44.883388]<Ad0>one could make a plugin :)
[00:56:55.094345]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10022 (Add a caption parameter to the Image macro) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10022#comment:1> - rblank
[00:58:26.861790]<osimons>Ad0: one could - feel free...
[00:59:40.376209]<osimons>Ad0: btw, i've configured my apache to instead provide a directory in each project via WebDAV - that allows users to map the file share and work with files that way. no trac gui though
[01:01:21.479446]<Ad0>webdav is OK
[01:01:30.284842]<Ad0>the wiki can just point to the link :)
[01:02:45.172095]<Ad0>thanks!
[01:04:57.299633]<osimons>goodie.
[01:05:28.830807]<Ad0>webdav implies versioning too doesn't it :)
[01:09:24.574619]<Ad0>with svn
[01:09:29.536883]<Ad0>brilliant, thanks osimons !
[01:16:58.058950]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:11> - jomae
[01:24:16.977176]<osimons>Ad0: yes, but sort of... note that svn-dav is has some serious limitations... one is atomic writes by most OSes, that I for instance see a single save as 1) a new file, 2) a delete of old, and 3) a rename of new to old....
[01:24:56.221508]<Ad0>ok
[01:25:04.652014]<Ad0>what would you prefer as an alternative?
[01:25:12.984782]<Ad0>would be nice with versioning
[01:25:59.350526]<osimons>any version control that operates via local cache and push/commit will be fine - except finding clients that your users are happy with unless they think like developers
[01:26:50.240646]<osimons>it really all depends on your users, and what they feel comfortable with
[01:27:00.029756]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:12> - cboos
[01:28:05.455822]<osimons>for instance Office users can connect to a plain (non-versioned) webdav and Office itself can version and track changes in each file if the users enable such features - although you may well get concurrency issues, and good luck with merging Office documents... :-)
[01:28:20.810178]<Ad0>haha
[01:28:33.790546]<Ad0>I dont care as long as you can just store a new version
[01:28:38.695784]<Ad0>as binary files
[01:32:00.123773]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #2222 (an error occurs when you click on the REV number on a trunk/) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2222#comment:5> - cboos
[01:37:01.102997]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10023 (Trac notification + Exchange 2010) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10023#comment:1> - cboos
[01:37:06.102887]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #5820 ([PATCH] standalone trac does not support IPv6) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5820#comment:20> - rblank
[01:39:09.575345]<falkb>Now as I asked there a guy from Bitnami trac stack has answered me (very quickly) and wrote it's a good idea to include Babel+internationalization, and they try to do so in their next Bitnami trac stack release
[01:52:03.145627]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:13> - rblank
[01:57:04.114428]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:14> - rblank
[02:07:04.171706]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:15> - osimons
[02:22:06.119821]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:16> - rblank
[02:22:11.119107]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #5820 ([PATCH] standalone trac does not support IPv6) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5820#comment:21> - cboos
[02:32:07.097765]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:17> - osimons
[02:37:07.164524]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:18> - cboos
[02:57:09.245091]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:19> - osimons
[02:57:14.244782]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #5820 ([PATCH] standalone trac does not support IPv6) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5820#comment:22> - anonymous
[02:59:53.453859]<progzer>Excuse me, I've got trac (0.11.5) on a machine which doesn't have internet access. I've downloaded the 0.12.2 executable (looking at the URL that easy_install tried to fetch from)
[03:00:14.570692]<progzer>Is there a way I can tell easy_install about the downloaded file - any particular location I can place it in?
[03:01:17.548362]<progzer>Or should I just uninstall Python-Trac-0.11.5 that shows up in my installed programs list and install the new executable.'
[03:01:40.655063]<progzer>The I can continue the remaining steps from the TracUpgrade wiki page.
[03:01:57.488015]<progzer>Assuming that easy_install doesn't do other automated updated (plugins etc perhaps?)
[03:02:09.937157]<progzer>s/updated/updates/
[03:02:10.246041]<gbot41>progzer meant: Assuming that easy_install doesn't do other automated updates (plugins etc perhaps?)
[03:02:15.245925]<gbot41>t.e.o: TracTermsNl edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracTermsNl?version=11> - anonymous
[03:02:19.054128]<TheSheep>progzer: you can run easy_install on the downloaded archive
[03:02:50.243895]<TheSheep>progzer: or unpack it and run 'python setup.py install'
[03:03:17.650729]<progzer>Cool, I'll try it with --upgrade first, thank you
[03:04:19.031601]<TheSheep>progzer: you can also run it on another computer and tell it to record all archives it downloads
[03:04:27.793876]<TheSheep>so that you don't need to install them manually
[03:06:35.793660]<progzer>This stuff is pretty sweet!
[03:10:36.641910]<falkb>Sometimes I wish the EstimationToolsPlugin can additionally display lines for certain users in its burndown chart
[03:11:20.375690]<TheSheep>lines?
[03:11:54.691031]<falkb>to not only trace the accumulated effort but also splitted referring to users. lines=graph
[03:13:16.509420]<Ad0>windows didn't like the svn apache webdav, osimons :(
[03:13:54.066861]<TheSheep>windows is pretty antisocial when it comes to portable software
[03:14:01.663224]<Ad0>yeah
[03:15:35.660078]<osimons>Ad0: i got it working on windows some years ago, but have since abandoned Windows for running anything server-related...
[03:18:48.792094]<progzer>hmm am I supposed to manually delete site-packages/Trac-0.11-5-py2.5.egg ? I just did a project env upgrade and wiki upgrade
[03:18:56.371298]<progzer>I'll restart httpd first as well.
[03:19:13.100080]<Ad0>hehe
[03:19:23.605388]<Ad0>I am installing a hotfix
[03:37:14.302960]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:20> - rblank
[03:37:19.302391]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:21> - cboos
[04:37:20.225886]<gbot41>t.e.o: t9936-etag_files-r10542_012.diff attached to Ticket #9936 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/9936/t9936-etag_files-r10542_012.diff> - osimons
[04:42:23.467400]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:22> - osimons
[04:57:22.210547]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:23> - cboos
[05:17:40.129225]<progzer>I got a message from matplotlib (UserWarning: This call to matplotlib.use() has no effect) on running trac-admin to sync repos
[05:20:18.629848]<progzer>hmm one ticket suggests its related to TracMetrix
[05:22:27.550108]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:24> - osimons
[05:37:26.534175]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:25> - cboos
[05:48:27.650194]<falkb>I've got trac 0.12.1 and want to see that checkbox "View ticket changes" in the Timeline (like on http://trac.edgewall.org/timeline). How can I switch it on?
[05:49:05.793224]<falkb>at present there is just "Tickets opened and closed" for tickets
[06:07:32.428630]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:26> - cboos
[06:49:50.164945]<ralphschindler>hi all, im having an issue with trac over fcgi and git. It seems like its caching the repository and not finding some updates. I've even disabled the CachingRepository functionality, but now i dont get updates at all in a timely fashion until i restart apache, any ideas?
[06:57:39.389764]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:27> - rblank
[06:59:36.719340]<CareBear\>ralphschindler : there are some issues with trac+git, but they can mostly be worked around
[06:59:49.208894]<CareBear\>ralphschindler : I would start by running tracd and proxying through the web server though
[07:00:25.673601]<ralphschindler>let trad listen on 127.* and use a proxy?
[07:00:30.294601]<ralphschindler>tracd*
[07:00:35.396298]<ralphschindler>that might be worth investigating
[07:03:47.769965]<CareBear\>right
[07:03:55.411856]<CareBear\>you can set apache up to do the proxying
[08:07:45.705658]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:28> - cboos
[08:12:46.677507]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:29> - cboos
[08:37:51.566423]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:30> - osimons
[08:46:21.169221]<cheshair>hi! i need to change a field name in my trac installation. The "keyword" field should be named in another way, say "foo". Is that possible? What should I hack?
[08:46:43.706742]<cheshair>something inside template folder?
[08:47:52.563653]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:31> - rblank
[08:48:46.018290]<cheshair>(ah sorry, i'm using 0.11.1)
[09:07:56.467041]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9936 (CSS and JS files should be versioned) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9936#comment:32> - cboos
[09:17:57.831877]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10024 (TimeoutError: Unable to get database connection within 0 seconds. ...) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10024> - woohj70@…
[09:22:58.801692]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #6367 ([PATCH] Etag responses need Vary header) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6367#comment:5> - cboos
[09:23:03.801234]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10024 (TimeoutError: Unable to get database connection within 0 seconds. ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10024#comment:1> - cboos
[09:27:59.784539]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9916 (TimeoutError: Unable to get database connection within 0 ...) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9916#comment:15> - cboos
[13:08:37.572916]<gbot41>t.e.o: Changeset [10551]: 0.13dev: Added a link below attachment lists to download all attachments ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/10551> - rblank
[13:18:38.567761]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #7078 ([PATCH] Download/save all attachments as .zip file) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7078#comment:10> - rblank
[13:18:43.567829]<gbot41>t.e.o: TracUsersClearance edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsersClearance?version=4> - shoffmann
[13:18:48.567978]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10025 (tickets comments not affected by default_charset configuration (using ...) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10025> - anonymous
[13:48:42.518060]<gbot41>t.e.o: 7078-limit-zip-download-r10551.patch attached to Ticket #7078 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/7078/7078-limit-zip-download-r10551.patch> - rblank
[13:48:47.516586]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #7078 ([PATCH] Download/save all attachments as .zip file) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7078#comment:11> - rblank
[13:53:43.498357]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10025 (tickets comments not affected by default_charset configuration (using ...) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10025#comment:1> - rblank
[13:58:44.474850]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #7078 ([PATCH] Download/save all attachments as .zip file) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7078#comment:12> - cboos
[13:58:49.473988]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10024 (TimeoutError: Unable to get database connection within 0 seconds. ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10024#comment:2> - cboos
[14:03:47.299737]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10024 (TimeoutError: Unable to get database connection within 0 seconds. ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10024#comment:3> - cboos
[14:09:29.038679]<tag>Has anyone tried to jam reviewboard into trac?
[14:13:51.018279]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #7078 ([PATCH] Download/save all attachments as .zip file) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7078#comment:13> - rblank
[14:14:12.971215]<mathieumg>when running tracd but serving it through a proxy, is it better to do the authentication through the webserver or through tracd?
[14:16:42.669689]<CareBear\>tracd
[14:17:43.265841]<mathieumg>ok, because it works but once I "login", I still see the menu to login, well I have the anonymous permissions, but clicking login doesn't do anything as if I was in fact correctly logged in
[14:17:48.901382]<mathieumg>I was wondering what could cause that
[14:23:50.755324]<gbot41>t.e.o: 9870-int-cache-id-r10551.patch attached to Ticket #9870 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/9870/9870-int-cache-id-r10551.patch> - rblank
[14:23:55.754470]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9916 (TimeoutError: Unable to get database connection within 0 ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9916#comment:16> - cboos
[14:24:37.123133]<mathieumg>I just tried typing a phony login and it just shows a blank page, whereas with the right credentials I am brought back to trac
[14:24:47.275424]<mathieumg>it's as if the tracd knew I was authenticated, but not trac itself
[14:28:49.415959]<gbot41>t.e.o: Changeset [10552]: 0.12.3dev: for db connection errors, also show the error in clear text for ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/10552> - cboos
[14:28:54.415425]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9870 (Improve the cache subsystem) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9870#comment:10> - rblank
[14:28:59.415891]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10024 (TimeoutError: Unable to get database connection within 0 seconds. ...) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10024#comment:4> - cboos
[14:35:46.741030]<mathieumg>ok it was a cookie path badly set :)
[14:38:51.351858]<gbot41>t.e.o: Changeset [10553]: 0.13dev: Allow limiting the maximum total size of an attachment list that ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/10553> - rblank
[14:38:56.351327]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #7078 ([PATCH] Download/save all attachments as .zip file) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7078#comment:14> - rblank
[14:43:53.846189]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9870 (Improve the cache subsystem) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9870#comment:11> - cboos
[14:53:53.361445]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9870 (Improve the cache subsystem) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9870#comment:12> - rblank
[15:08:56.282098]<gbot41>t.e.o: TracUsers edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers?version=975> - jsiirola@…
[15:24:00.716886]<gbot41>t.e.o: Changeset [10554]: 0.13dev: Small logging cleanup, part of #7286. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/10554> - rblank
[15:24:05.717065]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #7286 (Improve logging with "filters") closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7286#comment:19> - rblank
[15:24:10.716229]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9870 (Improve the cache subsystem) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9870#comment:13> - cboos
[15:34:00.228906]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #9870 (Improve the cache subsystem) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9870#comment:14> - rblank
[18:34:24.547136]<gbot41>t.e.o: imp_ramps_test_11_26_2010.log attached to TracGuide - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/wiki/TracGuide/imp_ramps_test_11_26_2010.log> - anonymous
[19:09:28.531066]<gbot41>t.e.o: TracOnWindowsIis edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracOnWindowsIis?version=9> - anonymous
[20:34:39.523104]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10026 (org.opensha.commons.calc.nnls.NNLSWrapper not working) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10026> - anirban6@…
[23:55:02.923221]<gbot41>t.e.o: Ticket #10026 (org.opensha.commons.calc.nnls.NNLSWrapper not working) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/10026#comment:1> - rblank