Team Chat Logs

September 14, 2010

2010 8
Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa Su
    1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30      
<< <   > >>

[00:29:49.806432]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [10106]: l10n/en_GB: s/coloring/colouring/ - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/10106> - cboos
[01:55:00.691940]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7895 (Issue: Custom Query Shows All Milestones Closed and Active) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7895#comment:8> - Ismael de Esteban <ismael@…>
[02:00:01.657248]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7895 (Issue: Custom Query Shows All Milestones Closed and Active) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7895#comment:9> - Ismael de Esteban <ismael@…>
[02:00:06.656648]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7895 (Issue: Custom Query Shows All Milestones Closed and Active) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7895#comment:10> - Erik Andersson <kirean@…>
[02:05:02.634612]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7895 (Issue: Custom Query Shows All Milestones Closed and Active) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7895#comment:11> - Ismael de Esteban <ismael@…>
[03:26:03.565316]<nhck>hi, is there an error in http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracCgi#MappingStaticResources? Shouldn't it be Alias /trac/chrome/common /path/to/trac/htdocs/ and Alias /trac/chrome/site /path/to/projectenv/htdocs instead of the two suggested Aliases?
[03:26:18.812681]<nhck>http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracCgi#MappingStaticResources
[03:29:08.891056]<nhck>There have been changes back and forth on it so maybe it would be good to find the "real" solution :-)
[03:40:20.166193]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7895 (Issue: Custom Query Shows All Milestones Closed and Active) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7895#comment:12> - cboos
[03:40:25.166114]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9536 (Remove Python 2.4 compatibility) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9536#comment:8> - cboos
[03:40:30.164548]<evil_twin>t.e.o: 9536-db-context-manager-r10102.3.patch attached to Ticket #9536 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/9536/9536-db-context-manager-r10102.3.patch> - cboos
[04:36:36.901530]<EdwardIII>hrm can anyone recommend a plug to handle receiving e-mail requests?
[04:50:17.269851]<kirean>EdwardIII: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/EmailtoTracScript ?
[04:51:36.812776]<EdwardIII>just found that now, kirean
[04:51:43.610955]<EdwardIII>i think i was using the wrong search terms
[05:11:11.934702]<EdwardIII>hrm it runs a setuid executable... why not just check a pop/imap mailbox?
[05:11:36.708449]<EdwardIII>this all seems a bit scary. is email conversion to tickets not popular in trac?
[05:13:44.413161]<tasslehoff>salute. we're gonna start using trac at work but we need to wait for a server to be setup. to get started I consider setting up Trac locally and use it for wiki/bugs/milestones, and then later move it to a server, and tell it about a git repo. Sounds like a good plan?
[05:15:01.805313]<EdwardIII>sounds like a plan to me
[05:15:09.999308]<EdwardIII>it should be fairly portable based on what i've seen
[05:16:50.553501]<tasslehoff>EdwardIII: I think so too. Now I just gotta find a decent howto for Ubuntu :)
[05:17:56.806720]<EdwardIII>i'm very new to trac and python, but i setup a specific user for trac (we already run apache with suexec) and used virtualenv so that user could have a python setup different from that of the system (Centos 5.5)
[05:19:49.720160]<EdwardIII>tasslehoff, your needs may be different i guess! but that seems to be working for me
[05:40:41.726523]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9616 (pre-configure the height of wiki edit text area) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9616> - team@…
[05:40:46.725901]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #2542 (Support for special symbols in wiki pages.) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2542#comment:8> - admin@…
[05:45:42.701063]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9616 (pre-configure the height of wiki edit text area) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9616#comment:1> - Erik Andersson <kirean@…>
[05:55:45.632875]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9616 (pre-configure the height of wiki edit text area) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9616#comment:2> - cboos
[06:00:45.611609]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #6002 ([PATCH] Adds an options to customize the default history mode) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6002#comment:7> - cboos
[06:00:50.610955]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #3360 (Can sort order of change history be reversed) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3360#comment:5> - cboos
[06:40:57.005762]<King_Ozzy>I can't get my comp's hostname to show up on the router's list, I'm running arch linux i386 and I have tried uncommenting 'hostname' and 'clientid' in dhcpcd.conf and putting the -h option in /etc/conf.d/dhcpcd, i'm not finding anything on why it still doesn't show the hostname
[06:43:52.323396]<King_Ozzy>anyone know about this?
[07:04:49.584172]<King_Ozzy>:-(
[07:05:55.395733]<nhck>King_Ozzy: this is the wrong channel. go to ##linux
[07:06:45.865013]<King_Ozzy>sry thought this was the channel
[08:26:11.223469]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9616 (pre-configure the height of wiki edit text area) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9616#comment:3> - lkraav <leho@…>
[11:02:17.356165]<Thanatermesis>is normal that MasterTicketPlugin don't show me my "blocked" and "blocked by" values in red and they are not links ?
[11:21:44.374632]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9617 (Private user-specific saved ticket queries) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9617> - nslowes@…
[11:46:49.243040]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9602 (auto-reload fail by design) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9602#comment:8> - anonymous
[11:47:23.955133]<doki_pen>hasienda: ping. I installed trac on a new laptop yesterday with easy_install. The locales where automatically generated. Is this possible for us too?
[11:49:32.335591]<hasienda>doki_pen: hello, good you ask this. Of course, I'll do just collecting other i18n things to fix in current implementation.
[11:50:27.805220]<hasienda>doki_pen: I've learned some lessons from recent i18n work on other plugins.
[11:50:46.274157]<doki_pen>hasienda: great, I'm looking at trac's setup.py now, I can make the fix
[11:51:18.614802]<doki_pen>hasienda: so the failure we saw with announcer/locale import
[11:51:28.861153]<doki_pen>hasienda: that only happens if babel is installed?
[11:51:41.317180]<doki_pen>hasienda: or always if po's aren't compiled?
[11:52:05.559138]<hasienda>doki_pen: right this an some others. As mentioned before, I aim at a 0.11/0.12 hybrid/tolerant way as well, so it will be easier to maintain
[11:54:04.182475]<hasienda>doki_pen: go for it, if you have the chance right now. I've enought other tasks, so don't mind at all. Let's work in parallel - n.p. for me so far
[11:54:22.667386]<hasienda>doki_pen: Every task/ticket solved is a good one.
[11:55:08.987789]<hasienda>doki_pen: As we speak of current tasks, did you have a chance to look at the AnnouncerPlugin wiki page lately?
[11:57:05.942518]<doki_pen>hasienda: looks awesome!
[11:57:14.290578]<doki_pen>hasienda: thanks a lot for doing that work
[11:57:23.386304]<hasienda>doki_pen: For me it's good to collect different opinions on the documentation, seen this was/is critical in some cases, where users had problems and filed a ticket.
[11:58:22.906779]<shesek>how should I reformat trac wiki syntax as plain string? is there anything built-in to strip wiki formatting? (its used to display wiki formatted text over IRC)
[11:59:16.636895]<hasienda>doki_pen: you're welcome, and especially I'm glad, if it does pay off - just had the chance to close one ticket yesterday and another today after that documentation rework. Nice. :-)
[12:01:52.161582]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9602 (auto-reload fail by design) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9602#comment:9> - cboos
[12:05:14.305360]<hasienda>shesek: there is a format_to oneliner, see http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/wiki/formatter.py?rev=9427#L1407 and more in trac.wiki.formatter
[12:06:36.064398]<doki_pen>yeah, I'm going to spend a little time making it easier to install
[12:06:49.699127]<doki_pen>i just created an entry on pypi
[12:13:06.861093]<zxvff>I've never setup Trac before from scratch, but I am responsible for a Trac system. I recently migrated it to a new box (which I accomplished by copying files from one machine to another basically). I'm getting some strange behavior now, for example
[12:13:08.570346]<zxvff>TemplateNotFound: Template "prefs_general.html"
[12:13:08.595728]<doki_pen>hasienda: what do you think will happen if I change the setup.py name?
[12:13:31.553430]<zxvff>and users unable to edit the wiki "Error: Forbidden. WIKI_MODIFY privileges are required"
[12:13:43.724166]<doki_pen>zxvff: usually tracs files are deployed using trac-admin deploy
[12:13:51.023671]<doki_pen>zxvff: they are not part of you project
[12:14:02.468737]<zxvff>so how would I integrate these files? using trac-admin deploy?
[12:14:09.778550]<doki_pen>zxvff: what type of database?
[12:14:24.546396]<doki_pen>zxvff: maybe that's not the issue, if you are having perm problems
[12:14:29.932648]<doki_pen>zxvff: perms should be in the DB
[12:14:35.853238]<zxvff>sqlite
[12:14:50.792364]<doki_pen>zxvff: does it mostly work?
[12:14:53.229047]<zxvff>doki_pen: it's sqlite3, converted from sqlite 2
[12:15:10.608369]<zxvff>it mostly works because SVN works and people can login to trac and use tickets
[12:15:18.257053]<zxvff>but the /prefs page and editing the wiki does not work
[12:15:20.168119]<doki_pen>zxvff: and the tickets look ok?
[12:15:25.904640]<zxvff>yes the tickets look fine
[12:15:37.897922]<doki_pen>zxvff: how did you install trac?
[12:15:45.205174]<zxvff>yum install trac
[12:15:56.728553]<doki_pen>zxvff: do you know if the versions are different?
[12:16:03.334368]<zxvff>yes the versions were different
[12:16:04.065111]<doki_pen>zxvff: between old and new
[12:16:10.168249]<doki_pen>zxvff: older, or newer?
[12:16:16.063495]<zxvff>this is a newer version of trac
[12:16:29.827581]<doki_pen>zxvff: did you run trac-admin /path/to/your/project upgrade ?
[12:16:31.218720]<zxvff>i don't know which version it was running before, but presently it is running 0.13
[12:16:42.179319]<doki_pen>zxvff: there is no 0.13.
[12:16:44.092518]<zxvff>i believe so, can i try running it again right now or would that harm anything?
[12:16:49.344392]<zxvff>Powered by Trac 0.13dev-r9964
[12:16:53.350671]<doki_pen>zxvff: it's always good to backup
[12:16:55.081585]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9602 (auto-reload fail by design) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9602#comment:10> - anatoly techtonik <techtonik@…>
[12:17:00.081001]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [10107]: l10n/ru: translations updated (100%) - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/10107> - aprudnikov
[12:17:06.720409]<doki_pen>zxvff: looks like the dev version of trac
[12:17:15.942980]<doki_pen>zxvff: latest stable is 0.12
[12:17:19.953196]<hasienda>doki_pen: "if I change the setup.py name?" - you mean setup.py -> supersetup.py ? I think nothing, as far as manual install is of concern, but it might break the easy_install stuff, that I don't use and really have no clue about inner mechanisms.
[12:17:21.678955]<doki_pen>zxvff: that should be ok
[12:17:34.532792]<doki_pen>hasienda: no, inside setup.py
[12:17:46.213362]<doki_pen>hasienda: name = 'AnnouncerPlugin'.
[12:17:54.414748]<doki_pen>hasienda: I want it to be 'TracAnnouncedr'
[12:18:02.055786]<doki_pen>s/edr/er/
[12:18:02.064371]<evil_twin>doki_pen meant: hasienda: I want it to be 'TracAnnouncer'
[12:18:33.375181]<zxvff>doki_pen: do you think running trac-admin /project/path upgrade might help?
[12:18:39.461835]<zxvff>i'm currently backing up the directory but i will try this
[12:19:16.716333]<doki_pen>zxvff: if you already ran it, I doubt it
[12:19:31.615886]<zxvff>Database is up to date, no upgrade necessary.
[12:19:32.138047]<doki_pen>zxvff: but maybe. is it a single project trac instance?
[12:19:33.700126]<zxvff>yes this did nothing
[12:19:41.691578]<zxvff>it is a single project trac instance
[12:19:51.427868]<doki_pen>zxvff: do you have plugins installed?
[12:20:23.920761]<doki_pen>zxvff: I'm starting to think your configuration has changed and it is affecting the way users are looked up
[12:20:24.621421]<hasienda>doki_pen: envision a cosmetic change for Trac plugin web admin & Co or really a name domain change including actual directory structure?
[12:20:30.179844]<zxvff>I'm not sure, unless wiki is a plugin i don't think so
[12:20:46.174505]<doki_pen>hasienda: no change to modules
[12:20:50.390646]<doki_pen>hasienda: just that one file
[12:20:56.683943]<doki_pen>hasienda: I think it won't effect anything
[12:21:05.555224]<zxvff>well there are two errors really, but the wiki one is the biggest problem. how could I check/correct the way users are being looked up?
[12:21:10.946355]<doki_pen>hasienda: oh, it will, you'll have to manually delete the existing plugin
[12:21:24.731027]<zxvff>it's a newer version of trac and a newer version of sqlite, i had to convert the database from sqlite2 to sqlite 3
[12:21:37.927074]<doki_pen>zxvff: well, you can start by checking the permissions
[12:21:45.051358]<doki_pen>zxvff: use trac-admin /path/to/project
[12:21:54.437258]<doki_pen>zxvff: and you'll get into an interactive trac-admin session
[12:22:01.042673]<doki_pen>zxvff: type help for a list of commands
[12:22:15.639540]<doki_pen>zxvff: there are two "default" users, sort of like roles
[12:22:24.508553]<doki_pen>zxvff: anonymous and authenticated
[12:22:35.113362]<doki_pen>zxvff: then each user can have additional privs
[12:23:05.013198]<zxvff>doki_pen: it looks like all of the appropriate users have "admin" priviledges
[12:23:23.829619]<doki_pen>zxvff: TRAC_ADMIN?
[12:23:40.868654]<doki_pen>zxvff: also, do you know what version of trac you _were_ on?
[12:24:22.944443]<hasienda>doki_pen: I see. By now I've only done such renaming within i18n development process for another plugin - extremly hard to get all changes consitently, if you touch path names. Just for better presentation in web_ui is still fine.
[12:24:29.895214]<zxvff>doki_pen: I don't see "TRAC_ADMIN" referenced in the permissions. I was on Trac 0.10.4
[12:25:07.452375]<doki_pen>hasienda: it effects how the egg is named only
[12:25:13.713008]<zxvff>okay doki_pen yes admin has TRAC_ADMIN
[12:25:27.795009]<doki_pen>hasienda: so instead of AnnouncerPlugin.egg, it would be TracAnnouncer.egg.
[12:25:48.088962]<hasienda>zxvff: what helped me a lot, was to create a fresh 0.12/0.13dev env anlongside oft the upgraded one and compare standard settings. This is sometimes most enligthening.
[12:26:40.856656]<doki_pen>zxvff: and a user with TRAC_ADMIN doesn't get WIKI_MODIFY?
[12:26:55.814481]<hasienda>doki_pen: Ah, ok, now I get it. Just do it, if you like. Guess this is related to some distribution issues (PyPi) or the like?
[12:27:08.263122]<zxvff>well, i'm seeing this when i try to edit it doki_pen
[12:27:09.115394]<zxvff>TemplateNotFound: Template "wiki_edit.html" not found
[12:27:14.694343]<zxvff>template not found for wiki edit
[12:27:19.567832]<doki_pen>hasienda: yeah, out of context, AnnouncerPlugin doesn't make sense
[12:28:03.130284]<doki_pen>zxvff: look in /path/to/project/templates
[12:28:57.079149]<doki_pen>zxvff: perhaps you have a template that is calling that template
[12:28:58.292092]<hasienda>doki_pen: Other than that, why would you want it to be named Trac* alongside with 20+ other Trac* - but out of context the change certainly makes sense.
[12:29:04.366928]<doki_pen>zxvff: but in trunk, maybe something changed
[12:29:26.822084]<zxvff>doki_pen: there are only ac ouple of things in the templates directory
[12:29:30.309560]<zxvff>README site_css.cs site_footer.cs site_header.cs site_newticket.cs
[12:29:39.178072]<zxvff>but this is the same as the other trac install
[12:29:46.832185]<zxvff>i have the other one running as well it's just out of date currently
[12:29:53.786510]<zxvff>we were replacing the server as it had old hardware
[12:29:58.137539]<doki_pen>zxvff: yes, but it can call templates that are part of trac
[12:30:05.219120]<doki_pen>zxvff: and if trac changes, it can break you
[12:30:27.311002]<doki_pen>zxvff: btw, cs is deprecated
[12:30:43.443188]<zxvff>so what would you recommend?
[12:30:57.013145]<zxvff>i really don't know what i'm doing here, forgive my ignorance, and I do appreciate the help
[12:31:20.997104]<hasienda>zxvff: right, as doki_pen tells, and there is another trac-admin option to update these files as well (trac-admin <env> is db-only AFAIK)
[12:31:52.518941]<zxvff>what is the command to update these?
[12:32:53.550707]<doki_pen>brb
[12:32:56.863216]<zxvff>okay
[12:35:22.971340]<hasienda>zxvff: reference is here: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracAdmin - but I just found "trac-admin <env> wiki upgrade" - no big deal
[12:35:32.004763]<zxvff>okay thanks
[12:36:20.256115]<zxvff>everything was already up to date, i think that I ran that command at some point in the past
[12:36:24.859709]<zxvff>i will check out the URL you gave me though
[12:36:53.755764]<zxvff>if it makes any difference the error message told me "The action that triggered the error was: GET: /wiki/WikiStart"
[12:38:31.379183]<hasienda>zxvff: I've setup a fresh 0.13dev env last night. Seen some style, I didn't notice in "upgraded" environments, so there might be some template and styles update inconsitency, but nothing; I've heard of in terms of an open Trac ticket by now.
[12:39:25.557771]<zxvff>so the "permission show" output from trac-admin has a lot more "available actions" on 0.13
[12:39:28.699236]<zxvff>compared to 0.10
[12:39:35.147897]<zxvff>if that means anything
[12:40:46.863400]<hasienda>zxvff: nothing with regard to a missing wiki_edit.html template
[12:41:28.605501]<zxvff>weird
[12:41:45.470389]<hasienda>zxvff: but between 0.10 and 0.11 there was the template engine switch CS->Genshi, you have Genshi 0.6 installed, right?
[12:42:21.508153]<zxvff>no clue, how do I check?
[12:45:53.367536]<doki_pen>sorry, I have a phone call
[12:46:18.804467]<doki_pen>I'm svn-uping now
[12:47:15.011018]<doki_pen>to be honest, I'm not surprised that you have issues going for 0.10.4 to 0.13dev
[12:48:18.600513]<doki_pen>zxvff: try temporarily removing your template files from /path/to/project/templates/
[12:49:25.939028]<doki_pen>zxvff: read this: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.11/TracUpgrade
[12:49:40.186627]<doki_pen>zxvff: and then this: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.12/TracUpgrade
[12:51:02.558679]<doki_pen>zxvff: also, turn on logging and see if anything is failing to load
[12:51:14.164930]<doki_pen>@logging
[12:51:14.180028]<evil_twin>logging is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[12:53:35.849214]<zxvff>great, thank you doki_pen
[12:54:10.417758]<doki_pen>zxvff: btw, wiki_edit.html is still in place in trunk ;-)
[12:55:34.058166]<zxvff>meaning that it's odd that i'mg etting that error?
[12:57:01.163324]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [10108]: l10n/ru: Oops. r10107 refer to trunk. Correct translation to 0.12.1dev ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/10108> - aprudnikov
[13:15:35.269286]<zxvff>hmmm so none of my outdated .cs templates even have anything in htem
[13:20:06.926461]<doki_pen>zxvff: ah, so it's safe to just delete them
[13:20:16.129684]<doki_pen>zxvff: but that doesn't help?
[13:20:28.987415]<doki_pen>zxvff: can you paste a stacktrace from the log?
[13:53:44.371847]<zxvff>doki_pen: I fixed it, I had to rewrite the trac.ini
[13:54:19.093001]<zxvff>not sure exactly what was wrong, but i installed trac from python easy_install on a differnet machine and compared the base configuration to the one i was running, there were a lot of differences
[13:54:38.282348]<zxvff>I just rewrote it to be more like the default and it worked!
[14:01:39.516257]<doki_pen>zxvff: nice!
[14:01:44.228251]<doki_pen>hasienda: hi
[14:02:17.758263]<doki_pen>hasienda: try pip install -U TracAnnouncer (or easy_install -U TracAnnouncer)
[14:02:29.091127]<doki_pen>preferably in a virtualenv ;-)
[14:04:46.946847]<zxvff>thanks for all of the help doki_pen and hasienda
[14:05:35.293762]<hasienda>doki_pen: sure, not doing so on a install, that I rely on right now. (reading your changesets right now)
[14:06:01.829711]<hasienda>zxvff: you're welcome. Glad it works for you now.
[14:06:12.080588]<zxvff>me too
[14:06:18.007987]<zxvff>so are our developers :)
[14:07:37.922458]<doki_pen>no problem
[14:07:45.044361]<doki_pen>zxvff: barely
[14:08:35.087535]<doki_pen>rrr.. looks like it's not getting picked up
[14:10:16.034028]<doki_pen>"DistributionNotFound: AnnouncerPlugin
[14:10:17.077079]<doki_pen>hehe
[14:11:48.901653]<doki_pen>hold that thought
[14:13:00.947247]<hasienda>doki_pen: changesets look good. Will try later, after getting myself some sleep. Already too many nights with 4 h or less in bed - not good
[14:13:55.312401]<hasienda>doki_pen: DistributionNotFound: coming from where? not setuptools itself, right?
[14:16:13.498229]<doki_pen>hasienda: __init__.py reference
[14:16:19.958302]<doki_pen>hasienda: I fixed it, testing now
[14:16:34.959173]<doki_pen>looks awesome, compiling messages automatically now
[14:17:15.081173]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9617 (Private user-specific saved ticket queries) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9617#comment:1> - rblank
[14:17:58.652377]<hasienda>doki_pen: yeah, so it's meant to be, nothing to bother for normal admin or user, but
[14:18:52.157348]<hasienda>doki_pen: beware, AFAIK, automatic compilation converts non-fuzzy msgid's only
[14:19:10.985505]<doki_pen>hasienda: ah.
[14:19:27.484018]<doki_pen>hasienda: can you think of any reason my smtp_enabled should be false by default?
[14:19:31.997026]<doki_pen>hasienda: I'm going to change it
[14:19:40.002044]<doki_pen>if you enabled the plugin, you want it to work.. lol
[14:19:41.391625]<hasienda>doki_pen: so I had to manually run the command python ./setup.py compile_catalog -f before
[14:19:55.640974]<doki_pen>hasienda: what is broken if you don't do that?
[14:20:18.378731]<doki_pen>hasienda: I think for now, it's ok. When we have an official release, we can create an egg with that in it
[14:21:15.101904]<hasienda>doki_pen: sure, removing all ', fuzzy markers works as well. Should be the goal anyway.
[14:23:45.820286]<hasienda>doki_pen: is SMTP and sendmail are mutual exclusive, right? Only we need to clearly state (new) behaviour in docu than, and only set on new installations, not touching any existing settings.
[14:28:12.242239]<doki_pen>hasienda: yeah, I think smtp_enabled is a misnomer
[14:31:16.893516]<hasienda>doki_pen: while it's coming from Trac and switching features like that looks clean, it adds to config bloat
[14:32:46.597067]<hasienda>doki_pen: I'll think hard and discuss at least on integration planning towards TracNotification replacement, what we really need (for migration) and what not at all
[14:34:31.180885]<hasienda>doki_pen: guess an non-existent or empty or invalid smtp_server would do the same, right?
[14:35:34.656332]<hasienda>doki_pen: just need to arrange for a warning, that only one or the other transport is used, if both are configured correctly
[14:37:04.935877]<hasienda>doki_pen: and do a decision towards more generic SMTP, making this ... enabled line obsolete at any rate.
[14:52:22.259831]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracDev/PluginDevelopment edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/PluginDevelopment?version=53> - Alex Willmer <alex@…>
[15:06:07.599686]<hasienda>doki_pen: will finally go now. See you.
[15:22:25.801623]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracDev/VersionControlApi edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/VersionControlApi?version=4> - alex@…
[15:37:28.739205]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9254 (SQL report realm/id decoration) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9254#comment:3> - anonymous
[15:37:33.738866]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9254 (SQL report realm/id decoration) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9254#comment:4> - anonymous
[18:02:53.323619]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9617 (Private user-specific saved ticket queries) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9617#comment:2> - nslowes@…
[18:11:22.737469]<shesek>http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9617#comment:3 - can someone fix my typo?
[18:11:33.365306]<shesek>s/might won't/might worth
[18:11:49.841391]<shesek>one of the weirdest typo I've ever had
[18:12:14.405076]<shesek>I don't want to clutter the ticket with another comment about the typo
[18:12:55.508972]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9617 (Private user-specific saved ticket queries) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9617#comment:3> - shesek
[18:22:57.250820]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9617 (Private user-specific saved ticket queries) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9617#comment:4> - shesek
[18:27:58.223490]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9618 (WIKI_VIEW_SOURCE privilege) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9618> - Mitar
[18:28:03.222941]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9574 (add filters to TicketQuery from query string arguments) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9574#comment:2> - shesek