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[10:40:10.267586]<eyzn>is it possible to use trac-macros in templates (i.e. site.html)?
[10:40:41.513024]<eyzn>i want to make sth like <div>[[TOC()]]</div>
[14:42:10.973995]<ronny>hi
[14:43:04.454461]<ronny>anyone aware of a easy way to make reports inline-editable (in order to do mass-changing of bugs when jugleing around milestones/release plans)
[15:04:54.652743]<lazarus477>Does track have a feature which allows one to outline a projects specification?
[15:05:24.928120]<lazarus477>I trying to exploar what trac can help me with.
[15:05:34.489876]<lazarus477>explore.
[15:45:18.744863]<lazarus477>Let me rephrase my question. I have in the past done development without a version control system, a nightmare.
[15:45:36.689744]<lazarus477>So I figure I will opt to use subversion and to snazy things up also make use of trac.
[15:45:49.241936]<lazarus477>So I am wondering about the little things, such as:
[15:46:36.731243]<lazarus477>Does track have something which lets me post a specification of sorts to outline what the features of a project should be and in which version (milestone perhaps)?
[15:46:51.079955]<lazarus477>And if so, what is this trac-feature called?
[16:18:14.054423]<hasienda>lazarus477: yes, that's what milestones is for: create milestones for forseeable releases or similar. Associating tickets i.e. representing work-to-do to make this feature happen, will give you an idea, where you are later, having progess bars in milestone view etc. And you may associate changesets with (resolved) tasks (=tickets) to bring VCS (SVN & Co.) and Trac's issue/task list together. (Did not try the last part, but this shoul
[16:19:37.298752]<lazarus477>hasienda: Thank you. Your explanation made things much clearer to me :-)
[16:19:50.124111]<lazarus477>hasienda: Now I get how it should be managed :-)
[16:22:29.166298]<lazarus477>Next question. Has anyone here made use of subversion for managing any project of an artistic nature such as graphical drawings, charts or SVG drawings of different versions keeping track of these...?
[16:23:48.296874]<lazarus477>I did so myself for a short while and it appered to work well. But since I have studied subversion more in depth and read it will not work well with binary files in a project.
[16:23:54.422154]<lazarus477>Anyone care to comment on this?
[16:26:17.568524]<hasienda>lazarus477: You're welcome. To you 2nd Q: I read Git might handle binaries more intelligent than just seeing a big blob. Didn't look into this so far.
[16:27:14.276393]<lazarus477>Well blobs are ok as long as they are handled in a proper fassion. I was in this case working on an SVG drawing.
[16:27:22.860226]<lazarus477>Subversion appered to manage it well.
[16:27:32.535657]<misc>svg is not a blob, it is xml, no ?
[16:27:47.299338]<lazarus477>I guess the problem is larger when it is a programming project consisting of binary project files, not simple drawings.
[16:27:56.774889]<lazarus477>Oh yea, good point.
[16:29:18.412183]<hasienda>lazarus477: As a side note I use Trac a lot outside it's initial scope on software development, but always found a way to make things work with it. If you don't already know about it, I recommend to have a look at the bunch of enhancements, you could get by Trac plugins. http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/ has a quite big collection oft them.
[16:29:55.620105]<lazarus477>hasienda: Aha, now that is a nice thought. I shall take a look.
[16:30:47.383414]<lazarus477>My initial purpose for trac & subversion is to manage the development of drupal templates and or sites.
[16:31:12.717801]<lazarus477>God a bunch of other goodie projects to stuff into it as well though, hehe.
[16:31:17.889684]<lazarus477>God = Got.
[16:33:20.341477]<hasienda>lazarus477: beware, 'a look' might be not enough, since I already spend days at Trac-Hacks to scan through the repository and ticket list looking for suitable with hopefully few bugs or much bugfixes.
[16:34:32.450513]<hasienda>lazarus477: you may still ask for comments on one or another plugin, getting recommendations from (power)users here.
[16:34:46.272829]<lazarus477>I get ya.
[16:35:22.266852]<lazarus477>Also the definition of me taking a look can be anything from a five minute speed reading exercise to 4 weeks hard studies :-}