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[00:10:48.767023]<macmaN>is it me or does http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/ChangeLog have some loading performance problems
[00:11:31.705137]<macmaN>or is the server just getting hammered with .7
[00:48:50.776299]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9125 (Using as column_ to break the row after the column does not colspan the ...) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9125#comment:1>
[01:57:57.036225]<otaku42>moin
[02:18:02.692055]<cmdKeen>I've set branches in [svn] section of trac.ini to /only-one-project-from-many-in-svn-repo/*, did resync, yet entire repository is still shown. What did I miss?
[03:03:28.539746]<otaku42>topic adjusted for recently released v0.11.7
[03:13:52.352136]<Blackhold>hi
[03:14:01.317884]<Blackhold>could someone help me please?
[03:14:19.200544]<Blackhold>I have just installed trac on my computer
[03:14:26.579338]<Blackhold>I created apache password file
[03:14:45.068206]<Blackhold>and assigned admin user with all permisions to a project
[03:14:57.269491]<Blackhold>but trac don't allows me to login
[03:15:14.498706]<Blackhold>and it says me: Authentication information not available. Please refer to the installation documentation.
[03:15:38.724217]<Blackhold>I went to documentation but I'm not able to know the problem :(
[03:24:28.281029]<cmdKeen>Blackhold: You are using apache, I presume?
[03:26:40.030560]<cmdKeen>Blackhold: Try looking there: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracAuthenticationIntroduction , especially <Location /trac/login>
[03:48:51.763954]<gozerbot>trac: Changeset [9342]: Port last 0.11.7 related changes from 0.11-stable to trunk. Note that here ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/9342>
[04:01:04.190941]<Blackhold>cmdKeen: thanks
[04:01:10.547735]<Blackhold>now I found the way
[04:01:20.312541]<Blackhold>I was executing bad my command
[04:01:35.721756]<Blackhold>cmdKeen: documented there in spanish: http://blackhold.nusepas.com
[04:36:38.453537]<cboos>otaku42: hi, thanks for fixing the #trac banner "p.e.c -> t.e.o"
[04:36:50.406758]<cboos>still there's: "See the FAQ at http://projects.edgewall.com/trac/wiki/TracFaq" ;-)
[04:37:11.583731]<cboos>and "see also http://trac.edgewall.com/ for docs and links." (should be .org instead of .com)
[04:48:52.580447]<gozerbot>trac: Changeset [9343]: Prettify session.py - SQL in multiline strings, a few i18n fixes. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/9343>
[05:00:04.900885]<otaku42>cboos: fixed.
[05:01:19.788774]<cboos>thanks! trying ...
[05:01:42.318474]<cboos>perfect ;-)
[05:02:24.992276]<cboos>... now please update the FAQ itself!
[05:02:32.229738]<cboos>:-)
[05:02:51.876018]*otaku42 looks around... .oO( who? me? )
[05:02:52.697169]<cboos>I really hope that once we have #1024 (section edit), the FAQ will be maintained again
[05:04:05.953453]<cboos>but maybe the best way would be to start over (TracFaq -> 0.11/TracFaq)
[05:18:53.139060]<gozerbot>trac: WikiStart edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiStart?version=134>
[05:19:54.578281]<Mulleteer>hi all. can you help me with trac.ini? How trac-admin creates the trac.ini when new project is created?
[05:20:18.213242]<Mulleteer>is there some template or is it trac-admin code?
[05:26:13.491139]<osimons>Mulleteer: from code - each option is defined in its relevant component as a setting with default value, and trac-admin just gathers all the options and writes it out to file. there is an --inherit=/path/to/shared.ini if you want settings to be inherited from your own "master" instead
[05:26:46.886506]<osimons>Mulleteer: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni#GlobalConfiguration
[05:29:38.460445]<Mulleteer>thanks, that solves my problem!
[05:48:55.017958]<gozerbot>trac: TracDownload edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDownload?version=115> || WikiStart edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiStart?version=136> || WikiStart edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiStart?version=135>
[06:18:53.560315]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9126 (WebAdmin broken: AttributeError: Configuration instance has no attribute ...) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9126> || TracDownload edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDownload?version=116>
[06:48:53.521616]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9126 (WebAdmin broken: AttributeError: Configuration instance has no attribute ...) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9126#comment:1>
[07:01:50.703283]<fr00d>Hello!
[07:02:12.531103]<fr00d>Is there a plugin to add a mailinglist that gets an email on each change in my trac wiki?
[07:02:45.577033]<fr00d>I found the WikiNotificationPlungin, but there I need to watch each page and there is no function to immediately watch all pages.
[07:03:35.856769]*retracile growls something indelicate about mornings.
[07:19:40.558714]<heavy>i can't seem to get email to send through gmail's smtp despite following the example snippet on http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracNotification#UsingGMailastheSMTPrelayhost
[07:19:57.246617]<heavy>Any other info I should be looking at? or logs I can view?
[07:30:53.093003]<bionoid>fr00d check out announcerplugin
[07:31:11.140981]<bionoid>heavy did you enable debug logging to file?
[07:31:54.753244]<heavy>bionoid: no, i can't get to admin panel because I can't verify my account (installed accountmanager plugin)
[07:32:04.912271]<heavy>i'll turn off that plugin and use http auth and turn on debugging
[07:32:11.481970]<bionoid>heavy just do it in the .ini
[07:32:29.294980]<heavy>bionoid: what's the optoin?
[07:32:35.942459]<bionoid>[logging] section
[07:33:02.099506]<heavy>what options available for log_type?
[07:33:06.731145]<heavy>set to none now obviously
[07:33:23.044215]<bionoid>normally use 'file'
[07:33:29.094029]<bionoid>or syslog..
[07:33:54.806441]<bionoid>this is documented though
[07:34:02.040476]<heavy>got it going
[07:38:34.839750]<heavy> DEBUG: No policy allowed anonymous performing EMAIL_VIEW on None
[07:38:39.572830]<heavy>would that prevent the email from sending?
[07:39:00.675351]<lazarus477>Hello. Does trac support theming?
[07:42:33.746137]<otaku42>lazarus477: yes. look for the ThemeEnginePlugin on trac-hacks.org
[07:42:50.922862]<otaku42>lazarus477: there is also a hack category "theme" there, which will give you various available themes
[08:06:09.853641]<heavy>i have made anonymous a TRAC_ADMIN and setup gmail smtp as per the docs and I still cannot get an email sent, nor find any indication in the log that there is a problem with email
[08:06:23.379223]<heavy>help :)
[08:06:27.013724]<heavy>:q
[08:27:37.030566]<bionoid>heavy using SELinux? maybe apache user is not allowed to send email.
[08:30:19.045405]<heavy>bionoid: ubuntu server, no SE
[08:30:22.572992]<osimons>heavy: does notification work if you use some other smtp host? is it just the gmail config?
[08:30:53.181180]<heavy>osimons: don't know of another smtp to try
[08:32:34.491836]<osimons>heavy, you did of course include the line with; smtp_enabled = true
[08:33:16.206131]<heavy>osimons: i sure did
[08:33:52.205334]<osimons>heavy: and what port do you use?
[08:34:04.173057]<heavy>trying 587 and 25
[08:34:19.681231]<heavy>trying my gmail account with and without the @gmail.com
[08:35:44.968949]<heavy>in my log I see "INFO: Email verification requested user" but nothing related after that to say whether or not it tried to send
[08:35:59.161070]<heavy>and the page tells me an email was sent
[08:37:23.811014]<osimons>hmm. don't use account manager, and not sure how it sends its emails
[08:37:28.950135]<bj0rn2>re there any substantial performance benefits of running trac on apache/mod_wsgi compared to tracd standalone?
[08:37:55.166546]*jhammel has had nothing but poor luck with AccountManager email verification
[08:38:01.393002]<osimons>heavy: could you perhaps try configure and use regular ticket notification that is all Trac?
[08:38:16.834556]<heavy>osimons: i'll try
[08:38:20.454276]<osimons>- keep the number of variables to a minimum when testing...
[08:40:55.103770]<osimons>bj0rn2: not substantial. and not for small teams. apache can scale much better though, and generally offer more flexibility in configuration.
[08:41:52.306850]<bj0rn2>osimons: so not much for response times in general on a server that only a few uses?
[08:42:28.128534]<osimons>bj0rn2: i'd doubt that, but don't have numbers at hand. you got performance issues?
[08:44:29.571075]<bj0rn2>osimons: response time for a ticket change can be a bit "long". with long I mean a problem when doing maintenance on alot of tickets but nothing that bothers casual use
[08:47:28.333045]<bj0rn2>osimons: I already made it less of a problem using GridMod-plugin, but was still wondering about the performance of tracd..
[08:47:42.920720]*bj0rn2 highly recommends GridMod :)
[08:47:52.243129]<osimons>bj0rn2: for your benefit, i did a simple apache bench for same project served through apache vs tracd. tracd was about 10% slower (GET requests only)
[08:48:18.739141]<bj0rn2>osimons: great to know. thanks alot!
[08:48:20.413567]<osimons>bj0rn2: if ticket updates is the problem, i suspect it is the ticket notification that actually takes time - sending smtp
[08:48:24.547022]<jhammel>osimons: is that mainly savings on static pages do you think or is there a python reason too?
[08:48:55.390135]<gozerbot>trac: WikiProcessors edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/WikiProcessors?version=42>
[08:49:32.317583]<osimons>bj0rn2: i'd recommend a local smtp relay - don't go connecting directly with remote smtp servers
[08:50:11.985912]<bj0rn2>osimons: hmm we do not use mail notifications
[08:50:33.596551]<osimons>oh. what db then?
[08:50:38.140819]<bj0rn2>sqlite
[08:51:12.763099]<osimons>jhammel: that was just a dev setup, nothing optimized for static resources or anything. however, mod_wsgi runs a couple of processes and may schedule better i guess
[08:51:57.582074]<osimons>the python work itself for single requests should be quite identical whether served by tracd or some apache/mod_*
[08:52:18.666866]<jhammel>osimons: tracd is not multiprocess?
[08:52:29.934498]<jhammel>i was under the impression it was, somehow
[08:52:45.080885]<osimons>jhammel: no. multithreaded though.
[08:53:37.519563]<osimons>you can start a number of them on different ports and use nginx to proxy to the pool :-)
[08:54:30.386248]<heavy>osimons: your thoughts were right, email works without accountmanager plugin
[08:54:38.946701]<heavy>thx, guess i'll stick with the quirky http auth for now
[08:54:58.832446]<osimons>heavy: goodie.
[08:59:47.760177]<heavy>osimons: it's bittersweet for sure :)
[09:00:00.121758]<osimons>heavy: patches welcome :-)
[09:00:36.038039]<heavy>I wish I had time to work on trac, but I need the functionality of it more than I need the polish :)
[09:02:48.847646]<lazarus477>otaku42: ty
[09:03:53.768475]<lazarus477>Does trac support a configuration where trac is run on machine A and subversion is running on machine B?
[09:04:32.592337]<osimons>lazarus477: nope, not unless machine b exports a file share containing the repos
[09:04:53.801108]<lazarus477>But if it does then all is well?
[09:04:59.915148]<cmc>lazarus477: you can use sshfs
[09:05:04.575815]<lazarus477>Yup
[09:05:08.773720]<osimons>lazarus477: the other often-used option is to use something like rsync or svn sync
[09:05:18.618391]<lazarus477>Aha
[09:05:22.100816]<osimons>=> sync a read-only copy locally for the trac to use
[09:05:48.022381]<lazarus477>Yea. I am very familiar with sshfs, rsync, cifs, nfs, etc :-)
[09:06:56.046384]<lazarus477>On this subject. I supose running trac on a separate machine from the one subversion runs on and doing regular rsyncs to the trac server is a way to keep some projects private and only export those which should be public, exporting them to a public server. Something like that?
[09:09:00.670659]<lazarus477>Does trac do any fancy service like pack up sources into tarrbals for downloading from a web browsers?
[09:09:01.848322]<osimons>lazarus477: yeah. read up on "svn sync" first - it allows hook scripts to push new info to repositories that shadow the master
[09:09:14.366985]<lazarus477>okie
[09:09:38.826014]<osimons>lazarus477: sure - "downloadable_paths" or something setting (see TracIni somewhere)
[09:09:41.872528]<osimons>@wiki TracIni
[09:09:41.880153]<evil_twin>http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracIni
[09:09:43.295995]<gozerbot>no result found
[09:10:08.090518]<lazarus477>ty :-)
[09:23:37.066564]<blackthorne>hi
[09:23:54.145178]<blackthorne>I'm interested on trac and git. do they play well with each other?
[09:25:36.818576]<blackthorne>i've seen there is a "hack" or Gitplugin in the version 0.10. Is this mature enough for production ?
[09:42:38.161245]<TiN>hi, i'm writing a little plugin. And i call this method in my proccess_request, and this method is called two times. Why?
[09:47:24.103850]<jhammel>TiN: i'm not sure if that is a question i can answer w/o context
[09:50:52.216225]<TiN>jhammel: this trac is deployed in apache, debian squeeze
[09:51:32.943048]<jhammel>TiN: but i mean, what does the plugin do? what does it match on? are you hitting it through the browser? or using something like curl?
[09:55:53.331671]<TiN>jhammel: my plugin http://paste.debian.net/63555/
[09:56:00.104672]<TiN>the method is project_list
[09:59:28.341568]<TiN>I call on the line 58 and the list is printed twice
[10:00:13.622771]<macmaN>did you guys noticed trac was chosen as reference implementation for mylyn restructuring effort
[10:00:43.557631]<jhammel>TiN: dunno; did you look at req.path_info? is it looking for e.g. static resources, assuming you're doing browser testing
[10:00:47.821443]<jhammel>::shrug::
[10:00:48.634255]<macmaN>http://www.eclipse.org/project-slides/mylyn-restructuring-review.html
[10:00:59.631614]<macmaN>cboos and co deserve a big hug
[10:01:07.266634]<macmaN>at the very least
[10:01:14.936002]<macmaN>congratulatory hug :P
[10:01:25.671391]<cmc>TiN: process_request should only get called once. Try raising an exception on the second go around to see what's calling it
[10:02:04.320686]<Spec>So are there wiki macros that actually pull data out of a ticket? (ie: I want to pull a customfield from a ticket in the wiki)
[10:03:57.358475]<Spec>and, if so, can I use query variables to specify the ticket number for which i want the customfield pulled out of: (ie: http://trac/wiki/page?tid=1 -> [ticket:$tid customfield:moo] -> "Bovine.")
[10:05:38.218281]<cmc>Spec: I don't think so. I don't see anything in http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/macro either
[10:11:54.022603]<Spec>looks like TicketWithSummaryMacro is close if it really pulls the summary out and displays it on the wiki page
[10:12:22.632455]<Spec>but i'd still need to be able to use query string in url to pass arguments to that macro, which I have a feeling trac wiki doesn't really do
[10:15:50.052992]<coderanger>Spec: Why not?
[10:16:05.833722]<coderanger>The macro gets a req object, and it can look at req.args just like everyone else
[10:16:16.619624]<coderanger>Granted this is very poor form and you shouldn't do it
[10:16:21.417066]<coderanger>but there is nothing stopping you
[10:17:29.473783]<Spec>why is it poor form?
[10:17:48.454382]<coderanger>It is not something a wiki should be doing
[10:17:55.394800]<coderanger>The wiki is a wiki, it is not a CMS
[10:18:18.767770]<Spec>how would that be turning it into a cms?
[10:18:32.989071]<Spec>just makes the wiki more versatile in the types of dynamic information it displays
[10:18:36.893236]<coderanger>Sounds like you want to make some kind of templated UI to view ticket data
[10:18:46.142350]<coderanger>This is not what a wiki does
[10:18:53.597422]<coderanger>You want to make a plugin
[10:18:57.168282]<coderanger>so make a plugin
[10:19:07.230858]<Spec>hehe, I don't quite want a templated ui to view ticket data
[10:19:23.752440]<cmc>(@see ticketquery)
[10:19:34.232893]<Spec>ticketquery just runs queries and generates hyperlinks
[10:19:37.745271]<Spec>afaik
[10:19:43.751769]<cmc>Spec: I think it's a good enough idea
[10:19:46.411409]<coderanger>If what you are doing is not "A simple collaborative text editor", do not use the wiki
[10:20:39.048594]<cmc>but coderanger is right, it does complicate the relationships between everything much, much more
[10:21:21.211577]<Spec>so, shall I explain what I want to do and figure out what the appropriate method to accomplish my goal is?
[10:21:30.997493]<coderanger>Sure
[10:22:30.744238]<Spec>I want to be able to template comments. Currently, I has a simple javascript that'll fetch a wiki page (which has on it things like: {{{ \n option1 = comment template 1 \n }}}), and when a Template(custom field select box) is selected, it populates the comment-box with what it fetches from the wiki
[10:23:11.232070]<Spec>But now, I'd like to have the template itself pre-populated with some data from the ticket's other customfields, as well as a dynamic date-which-page-was-generated, and things of that sort.
[10:23:41.873802]<cmc>I don't understand storing the content in the wiki
[10:23:46.925660]<Spec>At first I looked at the trac templating plugin, but that was only for templating new tickets...and to switch it to templating comments...well...that plugin is way over engineered
[10:24:05.373172]<Spec>cmc: just because a wiki is an easy place for other-users to edit the templates without having to upload a file/change a file/etc
[10:24:23.564238]<coderanger>I can see the argument for storing data in the wiki, fine
[10:24:42.816065]<coderanger>but don't use the wiki syntax for that kind of macro replacement
[10:24:44.942616]<Spec>I can change anything, but to re-engineer that trac-templating plugin is insane. it's waaaay overengineered for what i want
[10:24:58.273701]<Spec>coderanger: The only other thing I can think of is a plugin that'll post-process some variables i put in the wiki
[10:25:13.644853]<coderanger>what I would do if it were me is to take the text of the page you are using as a template and pass it to genshi as a text template
[10:25:14.522548]<Spec>ie: %TICKET_CUSTOMFIELD% -> the notify plugin can post-process that field before it sends an e-mail, but that sounds very hackish
[10:25:22.370291]<coderanger>and put the ticket in the template dict
[10:25:41.848291]<Spec>coderanger: ooo, i didn't understand a word of what you said ;)
[10:25:48.605619]<coderanger>So you can have things like "= ${tkt['myfield']} ="
[10:26:29.574875]*coderanger looks up an example
[10:26:30.916603]<Spec>coderanger: so you're saying pass the wiki page to genshi at some point?
[10:26:36.812165]<coderanger>yes
[10:26:44.373058]<Spec>at what point, and how? ^.^
[10:27:02.159116]<Spec>javascript fetches the wiki page, so it's not like javascript can call genshi, so I guess it'd have to be on-submit?
[10:27:21.667633]<coderanger>You need to make a new hander for this
[10:27:27.576718]<coderanger>which I assumed you already had
[10:27:39.915441]<coderanger>http://trac.edgewall.org/browser/trunk/trac/ticket/notification.py#L218
[10:27:50.439474]<coderanger>That function shows how to do the genshi magic
[10:28:04.886823]<coderanger>ticket and env are probably the only things you need to include
[10:28:13.648230]<Spec>format_subj?
[10:28:23.228329]<coderanger>maybe req.authname if you want to pull the username
[10:28:25.320289]<coderanger>yes
[10:28:44.486161]<Spec>nope, don't need the username, i wanted to use req to pull the ticket number
[10:28:56.256555]<Spec>as the javascript function can pass that to the wiki eaisly
[10:29:18.548563]<coderanger>You really shouldn't be doing this in JS anyway
[10:29:34.670902]<Spec>to template the commentbox? how else would you do it?
[10:29:58.051081]<coderanger>request filter
[10:30:35.863488]<coderanger>anyway, I need to head to work, catch ya later
[10:30:39.369958]<Spec>thanks for the pointers
[11:05:09.331505]<LiF0>Hi
[11:06:02.698865]<LiF0>New to Trac, trying to set up the logo, very frustrated... I can look at the Apache access.log and see it is serving the other files but it 404's on site/logo.png .. tried moving it to /common/ and it still 404's. Am I an idiot??
[11:09:18.984140]<pacopablo>LiF0: place the logo in the htdocs directory of your Trac instance
[11:10:46.204538]<pacopablo>alternately, install the siteuploadplugin from trac-hacks.org and use that to upload the file
[11:11:03.405415]<pacopablo>(which will place it in the htdocs directory of your instance)
[11:16:40.404101]<LiF0>Okay I just tried a bunch of different combinations and I still get a 404. if I specify it src = logo.png then it 404's on /trac/chrome/common/logo.png ... i tried dropping logo.png in there, same crap.
[11:17:37.163158]<LiF0>I tried putting it in /trac/htdocs and i tried putting it in /trac/apache/htdocs .. how about /trac/htdocs/site and /trac/apache/htdocs/site .. tried specifying a path .. /logo.png ... /site/logo.png ...
[11:18:25.613703]<pacopablo>LiF0: what is the path to your trac instance?
[11:18:30.830688]<LiF0>c:\trac
[11:18:47.180228]<pacopablo>ok, put it in C:\trac\htdocs
[11:18:57.691350]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9125 (Using as column_ to break the row after the column does not colspan the ...) reopened - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9125#comment:2>
[11:19:02.427902]<pacopablo>in trac.ini specify: site/filename.jpg
[11:20:04.927303]<LiF0>thanks.
[11:20:30.010993]<LiF0>that actually worked. beer's on me.
[11:21:15.142938]<LiF0>So "site" is an alias to the htdocs folder?
[11:25:01.894837]<pacopablo>yes
[11:25:13.775639]<pacopablo>you can actually use in in wiki links too
[11:27:22.389290]<LiF0>Man. I can't believe I wasted 4 hours on that.
[12:18:58.632195]<gozerbot>trac: TracDev/Proposals/MultipleProject edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/Proposals/MultipleProject?version=6> || TracDev/ToDo edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/ToDo?version=71> || TracDev/ToDo edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/ToDo?version=70> || TracPermissions edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracPermissions?version=70>
[13:11:13.555841]<webPragmatist>is there a plugin that allows you to commit or run svn commands?
[13:11:20.226245]<webPragmatist>or rather just update
[13:38:59.830080]<cmc>what?
[15:08:16.896661]<yojimbo-san>I have tracd running behind an nginx proxy. nginx is setting the X-Real-IP header ... can I get tracd to recognise this?
[15:09:33.155513]<yojimbo-san>... and even if I do ... where will I see anything logged? :-)
[15:11:59.946843]<cmc>trac's logging is configured in the [logging] section of the trac.ini file
[15:17:12.755116]<yojimbo-san>mm, true. I'm only sending ERROR to syslog at the moment ... and that doesn't include the request URL anyway (so I'm thinking it's not too useful for me)
[15:49:01.145419]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9127 (Drag and drop attachments) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9127>
[17:04:56.085044]<lie2815>is there any way to make trac display the current template (e.g. from cache)?
[17:05:08.805616]<lie2815>i just accidentally deleted my new one - only have an old backup :(
[17:07:16.280929]<lie2815>where does trac store the cached templates?
[17:07:49.981234]<jhammel>lie2815: in memory, IIRC
[17:08:15.759303]<lie2815>oh :(
[17:08:23.314496]<lie2815>any way to make it print that out?
[17:08:33.362967]<jhammel>why not just fetch it from <whereever>
[17:10:39.471431]<lie2815>because, as stated above i deleted it. ahem
[17:15:59.184530]<retracile>lie2815: Linux server?
[17:17:56.525947]<lie2815>yup. ubuntu. ext3 :(
[17:21:32.086206]<retracile>lie2815: There is an off-chance that the server has the template files open; does 'ls -l /proc/<serverpid>/fd' (as root) show anything promising?
[17:24:03.572437]<retracile>hm. tracd doesn't seem to have anything interesting there.
[17:24:43.051691]<lie2815>uhm... which serverpid does trac have? ^^
[17:25:20.955626]<retracile>you'd have to determine that based on how it's currently running, but it doesn't look like there would be anything useful there anyway, so, uhm... nevermind. :/
[17:25:47.508773]<retracile>lie2815: Do you have a running server serving pages based on your new template?
[17:26:08.024891]<lie2815>okay. well, thank you anyways. it's not as bad as it could be. i do remember most changes and they weren't too difficult.
[17:26:10.921690]<lie2815>currently, yes.
[17:26:36.207524]<retracile>lie2815: I'd suggest saving one of those pages to help jog your memory.
[17:27:49.757358]<retracile>lie2815: All my other ideas involve lots of work, so if recreating it is a matter of an hour's work, I'd suggest just recreating it. :/
[17:27:59.375139]<lie2815>not even :D
[17:28:06.536471]<lie2815>but i still wanted to save that time ;)
[17:28:16.301715]<lie2815>thanks for your thoughts. i'll go to bed now.
[18:05:44.368545]<nooba>hi, is there a way to have a list/field for svn revision numbers when writing a ticket?
[18:09:13.605588]<wildintellect>that list could get kinda long
[18:09:59.234137]<wildintellect>I'm sure you can add a field if you want - but its not an out of the box feature - fyi changest:123 would put a link to the commit in the comment
[18:11:50.756426]<nooba>well it could include like the last 10 revisions for a quick select... thanks for the tip
[18:16:27.798930]<wildintellect>you can actually do the same thing in the commit messages too
[18:16:53.380105]<wildintellect>ticket:123 when shown in the commit log on trac will make it a link to the ticket
[18:19:35.530481]<wildintellect>nooba, check http://trac-hacks.org/ there might be a plugin that does what you want
[18:34:48.716444]<nooba>I did a quick search but couldn't find it
[18:34:54.804656]<nooba>it's not that important anyway
[18:34:57.708417]<nooba>but thanks
[21:19:19.112485]<gozerbot>trac: TracDev/ToDo edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/ToDo?version=72>