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[00:04:43.526898]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9162 (More modularity for preferences) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9162>
[01:34:44.762925]<gozerbot>trac: TracMercurial edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracMercurial?version=71>
[01:54:02.167431]<otaku42>moin
[02:04:45.471132]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #3663 (Chinese folder or file name error) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/3663#comment:33> || Changeset [9395]: Fix XML validation of the functional test case added in r9377 for #3663. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/9395>
[02:07:58.937875]<macmaN>what up otaku42
[02:08:19.327749]<macmaN>you are the best employee i've seen around
[02:08:27.051851]<macmaN>every morning you're there, never drunk, always polite
[02:08:30.213801]<otaku42>macmaN: lot of work in the office - yet again :)
[02:08:35.156477]<otaku42>macmaN: thx :)
[02:34:45.984638]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9163 (SitecoreStager Cache Clear Improvement) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9163#comment:1> || Ticket #9163 (SitecoreStager Cache Clear Improvement) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9163>
[03:21:36.188999]<cboos>hi there
[03:21:50.880503]<talley>hi
[03:23:07.476601]<cboos>s0undt3ch: hello, around? did you notice my calls for Babel 0.9.5 and Genshi 0.6? (and the related discussion on trac-dev?)
[04:33:25.820620]<hasienda>Do we have a custom date field, I mean, a true date with query support, no string like used in several plugins?
[04:36:00.437107]<hasienda>custom timestamp in text field is convenient only for display, while I want to be able to do a query with from_to like I can with time and changetime.
[05:01:56.445781]<bionoid>hasienda No :(
[05:02:31.549893]<bionoid>hasienda I use a static date format and a bunch of source hacks to acheive something to that end. But really, it's not worth it.
[05:04:09.541233]<hasienda>bionoid: not worth? Dunno, how do you handle query, or don't you need to search for dates?
[05:06:57.337884]<bionoid>hasienda Not worth implementing with the current codebase/db schema I mean. It simply has no real date support, and hacking in something on top of it is non-trivial.
[05:07:51.360291]<e_>hello everybody!
[05:07:58.189567]<bionoid>I do date searches, but it relies heavily on javascript, Postgres etc. Not portable at all.
[05:08:02.006180]<e_>can i use an existing wiki together with trac?
[05:08:17.681353]<bionoid>asmidike_: Not natively but there is a plugin to embed stuff in iframes
[05:08:23.745659]<bionoid>oops
[05:08:25.345568]<bionoid>asmidike_: ;-)
[05:08:30.307846]<bionoid>Hm stupid nick completer!
[05:08:36.097637]<bionoid>e _ :
[05:08:39.797753]<e_>ahh
[05:08:43.960340]<e_>hehe :)
[05:09:02.361164]<e_>hm.. that doesn't appear seamless
[05:09:25.946886]<bionoid>Well..no.
[05:10:18.749054]<e_>mh, too bad. i have an existing wiki with quite a bit of information in it. would be nice to have a seamless integration.
[05:10:29.959422]<e_>but well, i guess i can have both in parallel
[05:10:30.770123]<hasienda>bionoid: yes, I looked arround and found the current types, but I didn't find the reason, why it souldn't work. Queries do work with Unix timestamp for Trac fields 'time' and 'changetime' after all.
[05:11:02.709081]<bionoid>e_ probably easier to move the other wiki data to Trac format.
[05:11:23.071137]<bionoid>hasienda Yes but the problem is there is no type support for custom fields (in database schema)
[05:12:19.228168]<e_>bionoid: that other wiki has a lot of really nice plugins though :)
[05:12:21.445987]<bionoid>hasienda The fields you refer to are stored as a part of the Ticket model itself, ie as a column of a specific table. Custom fields use a collapsed format with basically just ticket_id,field_name,field_value
[05:12:49.368511]<bionoid>e_ then you're up for some coding.. or some not-so-seamless iframes ;-)
[05:13:02.678313]<e_>alright ;)
[05:13:36.834954]<hasienda>bionoid: still no reason, why it couln't be Unit timestamp in value?
[05:15:35.461527]<bionoid>hasienda: Of course you can put a number in the value. But there is no code to intercept it and present human-readable, or to sort it correctly, much less to search it (this is all done in the Ticket system for time/changetime, _not_ in custom fields).
[05:18:05.688067]<hasienda>bionoid: since Ticket system is able to construct valid display for option field from simple text value, it should still be possible to do the same with (new) logic for Unix_time too.
[05:18:22.982881]<bionoid>hasienda: possible, yes. Worth it, no.
[05:18:41.677530]<bionoid>YMMV though, like I said I have done this and it's not a pleasant experience.
[05:19:36.158928]<hasienda>bionoid: How else could I get Trac Query to show me a from_to for my custom date field?
[05:21:31.689260]<bionoid>hasienda: I know of no elegant solution. It's a matter of changing core code to suit your need.
[05:23:29.491702]<hasienda>bionoid: thanks so far, will report back, if I get something working/worth mentioning here
[05:26:28.946263]<bionoid>hasienda http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/4729 -> see last comment here for an example of horrible date sorting in query ;-)
[06:49:45.223375]<paranoidi>sigh, why does trac insist knowing better than I what style attributes I can use ;P
[06:50:03.814557]<paranoidi>apparently position: absolute is not allowed, or at least it disappears mysteriously
[06:52:54.327836]<paranoidi>granted, positionin certain elements with it is a hack, but there's no better way that I am aware of
[07:04:47.964438]<gozerbot>trac: 0.12/TracRoadmap edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.12/TracRoadmap?version=3>
[07:07:32.470754]*retracile growls something spiteful about mornings.
[07:27:15.213881]<macmaN>who is mark.m.mcmahon?
[07:33:59.409722]<Morbus>g'day. i lost a modification that i made to emailer.py, wherein i put the branch into the subject line. is that just self.branch() perhaps?
[07:36:25.834459]<giulianob>hey guys im trying to set up Trac on apache under windows.. I can get the standalone to work but im getting a dreaded http 500 error and it doesnt give me any information besides "couldnt load trac.wsgi as a wsgi module"
[07:38:21.810365]<kirean>macmaN: http://pywinauto.blogspot.com/ ?
[07:40:24.280800]<macmaN>kirean: mkay, just noticed he was the author of that last TracRoadmap diff
[08:04:49.195087]<gozerbot>trac: 0.12/TracStandalone edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.12/TracStandalone?version=4>
[08:06:50.543297]<Morbus>exit
[08:07:15.021987]<macmaN>why not ctrl-d
[08:18:38.667865]<giulianob>Figured out my problem .. dont use 64bit python on winderz for wsgi ;)
[08:19:14.658204]<giulianob>Btw this article is very good for setting up Trac on windows w/ apache: http://www.itnewb.com/v/Installing-Subversion-and-Trac-as-Apache-Virtual-Hosts-on-Windows#head6
[08:21:43.402390]<thm>anyone else seen that problem: http://fpaste.org/zzP2/
[08:22:47.270711]<cmc>SMTPSenderRefused: (504, 'size=2054 not supported', u'"XX Trac" <xxtrac@xx.xx>') I'm guessing you don't have the right notification settings
[08:23:25.552526]<cmc>or perhaps the file is too large
[08:24:25.463271]<cmc>(I'm assuming sendmail is installed)
[08:25:18.939735]<thm>I'm contacting an external smtp server
[08:26:17.582762]<thm>and I also see messages with size=496, so I guess that's a red herring
[08:26:36.531364]<cmc>this error is saying that your smtp server is refusing the message. Maybe no size is accepted?
[08:28:09.989883]<cmc>not too sure on the mailserver stuffs, but it *looks* like your mail server is refusing to send the email because of size
[08:59:03.142137]<thm>or the mailserver and smptlib are not in sync about the size= capability.
[09:04:49.269707]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9164 (Second categorie for grouping tickets) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9164>
[09:34:49.690639]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9165 (Render Wiki Content to Genshi Markup Stream) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9165>
[10:04:49.993689]<gozerbot>trac: SeaChange/CompetitionSurvey edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SeaChange/CompetitionSurvey?version=2>
[10:15:31.709603]<thm>can I use a relative link in the [[Image()]] macro?
[12:04:51.916406]<gozerbot>trac: Changeset [9396]: env: Improved the `project_url` docstring. Suggested by Anatoly Techtonik ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/9396>
[13:04:52.378224]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9166 (add 'time' as another custom ticket field type) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9166>
[13:16:35.813548]<hasienda>bionoid: still around? if so, look at http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9166 and kindly provide corrections as appropriate
[13:19:35.577995]<hasienda>bionoid: please :-), I'm quite determined to have this some day soon and forget about all the workarounds.
[13:58:26.493363]<Spec>Heya...I have a plugin that presents more data via the notify() function to the genshi template. The data (in python) is in a list, and if I call the variable via genshi it gets me the contents of the list....
[13:58:37.151984]<Spec>however, when I try to use genshi's #for syntax to iterate over the list, it does not let me do so
[13:58:51.600353]<Spec>is there any documentation explaining how to get genshi to iterate over a list?
[14:34:52.494140]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9128 (Test failures in 0.11.7: UnicodeEncodeErrors in ...) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9128#comment:9> || Changeset [9398]: Merged [9397] from 0.11-stable. - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/9398> || Changeset [9397]: util: Disabled a test involving unicode paths, as it is currently not ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/9397> ||
[14:34:57.602139]<gozerbot> Ticket #9166 (add 'time' as another custom ticket field type) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9166#comment:2>
[21:52:39.278857]<DavidAndCarr>Pretty new to trac, trying to get it setup... one thing i'm wondering is when I create a new ticket, is there a way for me to define which user it's for (from a set of users that i currently have defined) and for it to email them?
[22:04:54.857052]<gozerbot>trac: 0.12/TracUpgrade edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.12/TracUpgrade?version=6> || 0.12/TracUpgrade edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/0.12/TracUpgrade?version=5>
[22:33:12.594013]<wildintellect>DavidAndCarr, I believe there's a plugin for that, but yes when you make tickets there's are boxes for user and others to cc on tickets
[23:04:55.003436]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #9167 (Timeline filtering by author ("done by") is case sensitive) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9167>
[23:17:38.480087]<Izzy>DavidAndCarr: take a look at the list of available plugins (http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/0.11) - there are a few for cusomization of the ticket stuff.