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[01:04:38.673801]<otaku42>moin
[04:35:01.541868]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #8968 (AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'toordinal') created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8968>
[05:05:02.408077]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #8968 (AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'toordinal') closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8968#comment:1>
[05:53:26.733325]<glezos>installed trac 0.11-stable with mercurial plugin.. And we get this unicode error from genshi on some tickets: http://trac.transifex.org/ticket/452
[05:55:36.475462]<Sacho>server not found?
[05:58:58.045001]<glezos>argh, right.. duh.
[06:22:53.670340]<TheSheep>Can I somehow change the format of date in the ticket's change history? For example, display both "3 days ago" and a calendar date?
[06:31:40.680199]<vinvin>hi, i have troubles setting up a multiple trac system with virtual hosts in apache2
[06:32:06.724713]<vinvin>i already have config files for the vhosts, how can I put trac config in a separate file?
[06:44:16.843195]<TheSheep>vinvin: I say, define different trac environment paths in your vhosts
[06:51:55.241312]<glezos>Sacho: Sorry about that -- it should be working now.
[06:52:02.695455]<glezos>repeating: installed trac 0.11-stable with mercurial plugin.. And we get this unicode error from genshi on some tickets: http://trac.transifex.org/ticket/452
[06:59:38.540065]<vinvin>yes TheSheep i just wanted to know if there was a way to seperate the vhost file and the trac file
[07:05:04.159486]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #8969 (IntegrityError: columns cookie, ipnr, name are not unique) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8969>
[07:25:28.200045]<vinvin>what is the template supposed to look like for TracEnvIndexTemplate?
[07:33:13.633992]<vinvin>pysqlite2.dbapi2.DatabaseError: file is encrypted or is not a database
[07:33:19.171100]<vinvin>does that happen often?
[07:33:25.153137]<vinvin>why would it be?
[07:33:41.892720]<vinvin>upgrade says that too
[07:33:56.721352]<cmc>sounds like the database is encrypted or corrupt
[07:34:07.968055]<misc>or in another format ( sqlite3 )
[07:34:17.379091]<vinvin>well i have three projects and it says it for the three
[07:34:18.513187]<otaku42>or the database file has been created with a different version of sqlite than what is used now
[07:34:30.046639]<vinvin>yes it's probably something like that
[07:34:41.172975]<vinvin>but why does upgrade can't fix it
[07:34:41.293612]<cmc>vinvin: did you upgrade your distro recently/ anything with sqlite?
[07:34:46.800906]<vinvin>yes cmc
[07:34:52.850505]<cmc>that'd be the cause
[07:34:55.435617]<vinvin>it's some old projects on a new system
[07:35:40.003185]<cmc>database formats don't match up
[07:35:48.102591]<vinvin>so what can I do?
[07:36:11.579838]<cmc>is sqlite3 installed on the new system?
[07:36:24.423858]<vinvin>no
[07:36:41.510911]<vinvin>i can install it however
[07:36:43.457903]<cmc>what format is the database?
[07:36:46.612354]<vinvin>3
[07:36:52.269134]<vinvin>i don't know what this is
[07:37:29.820710]<cmc>sqlite is a ... form ... of sql. like mysql or postgresql or sqlserver
[07:37:33.088144]<cmc>or oracle
[07:37:46.236134]<vinvin>yes
[07:37:56.320988]<vinvin>trac does not use libdb anymore?
[07:38:26.762720]<vinvin>oh it was always sqlite?
[07:38:33.748974]<vinvin>but debian did not install sqlite with trac
[07:38:37.730243]<cmc>it's not always sqlite
[07:38:49.751861]<cmc>I use postgres, for example
[07:39:08.902760]<vinvin>ok it's python-sqlite
[07:39:15.435434]<vinvin>3
[07:39:22.497331]<vinvin>that i have installed now
[07:39:24.505076]<cmc>yes, you will need the python binding for sqlite3
[07:39:33.780101]<cmc>bindings*
[07:39:54.105428]<vinvin>so how can I upgrade the db?
[07:40:13.477022]<vinvin>oh wait,
[07:40:27.218146]<vinvin>when I tols i don't know what this is, I did not say it for sqlite
[07:40:37.835067]<vinvin>i was saying it for the 3 that is in the file 'format'
[07:41:07.100780]<otaku42>vinvin: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/PySqlite#UpgradingSQLitefrom2.xto3.x
[07:41:14.272268]<vinvin>ok nevermind it was in svn not in trac
[07:41:18.214301]<vinvin>ok thanks otaku42
[07:46:54.875160]<Steve973>I use mod_python for trac, and I'm wondering if it's advisable to have multiple projects under the same instance. For example, would/could all of the projects share the same wiki, but have separate milestones/timelines/tasks?
[07:49:28.893158]<vinvin>ok it works :) thanks
[07:49:37.578129]<vinvin>what has changed in the template file also?
[07:56:55.198536]<twan_vdp>Does anyone know howto het a custom field for a milestone ?
[08:31:35.535498]<jacktrip>i have come to ask more dumb questions. when i enable attachments from the admin console (.11.6) it puts a list of attachments on every wiki page. like say i make a page called foo, and attach an image, then all wiki pages now have a section at the bottom called attachments, and lists my attachment
[08:31:44.453128]<jacktrip>it is crazy and i don't understand
[08:35:03.058667]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #8970 (AttributeError: 'TracError' object has no attribute 'acctmgr') created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8970>
[08:40:18.889419]<cucio>Hi, is rblank around?
[08:40:36.408313]<otaku42>!seen rblank
[08:40:36.419533]<evil_twin>rblank was last seen on irc.freenode.net at Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:28:53 +0100, quitting: "leaving"
[08:40:37.006779]<gozerbot>rblank was last seen on irc.freenode.net at Thu, 14 Jan 2010 01:43:40 +0100, quitting: "leaving"
[08:40:56.308185]<otaku42>i guess this means "no" :)
[08:40:59.140709]<cucio>ok, thanks, I though perhaps he was using another nick, cheers!
[08:41:48.381567]<jhammel>evil_twin, gozerbot : can't you two just agree?!? your fighting is tearing this channel apart!
[08:42:31.824106]<otaku42>lol
[08:42:35.667320]<jacktrip>if i disable the legacyattachment policy it works
[08:43:11.744262]<jacktrip>but then i can't figure out how to attach files
[09:25:45.472086]<jacktrip>meh. i upgraded to 0.12dev-r9045. it fixed it.
[09:35:05.214594]<gozerbot>trac: Ticket #8970 (AttributeError: 'TracError' object has no attribute 'acctmgr') closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8970#comment:1>
[10:43:25.745349]<doki_pen>is there a macro or syntax for wiki attachments links?
[10:46:52.434290]<doki_pen>I got it
[10:49:38.026141]<jacktrip>a dead channel
[10:50:08.381682]<k0s>hardly dead
[10:50:10.936403]<k0s>just quiet
[10:50:24.408398]<jacktrip>almost too quiet
[10:50:57.345673]<doki_pen>jacktrip: heh.
[10:51:01.207642]<doki_pen>jacktrip: looks active to me
[10:51:29.940919]<doki_pen>jacktrip: http://doki-pen.org/irclogs/trac
[10:52:06.038376]<jacktrip>needs line numbers
[10:52:46.205382]<k0s>doki_pen: what plugin is that?
[10:53:05.948609]<jacktrip>i like trac, but i have found it terribly difficult to google issues for it
[10:53:22.463419]<jacktrip>but i got my company to use it
[10:53:24.632611]<jacktrip>win
[10:53:47.677853]<doki_pen>k0s: the irclogs plugin
[10:53:52.107577]<doki_pen>k0s: :D
[10:53:52.924867]<k0s>doki_pen: thanks
[10:53:59.932785]<doki_pen>k0s: if you need any help, I wrote it
[10:54:04.696286]<doki_pen>k0s: it has some bugs
[10:54:17.469175]<doki_pen>k0s: just ping me for help
[10:54:17.817078]<k0s>doki_pen: cool; probably won't look into it until someone requests it
[10:54:29.222706]<doki_pen>k0s: for private use?
[10:54:37.154472]<k0s>doki_pen: not sure?
[10:54:47.593096]<doki_pen>k0s: we use it here at optaros for our internal irc server
[10:54:52.698057]<doki_pen>k0s: it works better for that
[10:55:01.219552]<doki_pen>k0s: I need to work on performance for very active channels
[10:55:05.569380]<doki_pen>k0s: like #python
[10:55:17.232495]<k0s>doki_pen: no, it would be for freenode channels, but none super-active
[10:55:51.525620]<doki_pen>k0s: I want to add pagination but haven't decided on how to do it yet
[10:56:04.072538]<k0s>doki_pen: i have problems with that myself
[10:56:12.198940]<k0s>doki_pen: you could paginate by day, maybe
[10:56:21.005917]<doki_pen>also, if I just stopped using a giant html table it would probably help
[10:56:26.894974]<k0s>hah!
[10:56:34.597547]<k0s>maybe ;)
[10:56:41.703125]<doki_pen>lol
[10:57:20.331653]<doki_pen>ive just been concentrating on announcerplugin lately, because I want to get it into trac 0.12
[10:58:14.229622]<k0s>i've been concentrating, sadly, on non-trac items
[10:58:24.406798]<k0s>like syncing with google via LDAP
[10:58:30.799983]<k0s>and *gasp* Mailman!
[11:00:58.117762]<doki_pen>k0s: ha!
[11:01:04.878889]<doki_pen>k0s: I'm also working on tracgate
[11:01:12.665884]<k0s>doki_pen: what's tracgate?
[11:01:25.344837]<doki_pen>http://github.com/dokipen/tracgate
[11:01:41.974164]<doki_pen>we are thinking of using the sample lamson mailinglist app to replace mailman
[11:01:52.516168]<doki_pen>mailman is great if you need the kitchen sink
[11:01:55.099126]<doki_pen>but we don't
[11:02:04.758342]<k0s>mailman is *not* great if you need the kitchen sink
[11:02:13.456404]<doki_pen>haha
[11:02:20.990747]<k0s>i'll probably write my own ML software at some point...possibly using lamson
[11:02:32.045983]<k0s>(i haven't actually figured out if lamson helps me or not)
[11:03:12.741948]<doki_pen>k0s: it's simpler
[11:03:35.173997]<k0s>doki_pen: its an SMTP server, right?
[11:03:42.347899]<doki_pen>yeah
[11:03:59.093303]<doki_pen>with a MVC
[11:04:05.627465]<k0s>so i'm not sure if i want to tie my mailing list to a particular SMTP implementation
[11:04:23.497085]<k0s>and i haven't figured out if i could do anything else if i go lamson
[11:04:37.040292]<doki_pen>I'll tell you, it's been really nice to develop with
[11:04:41.498510]<doki_pen>very easy
[11:04:59.331167]<doki_pen>with the muttrc setup and the smtp interceptor
[11:05:07.119541]<gozerbot>trac: Changeset [9046]: 0.12dev: Fix tests broken in r9037 when /tmp is a symlink - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/9046>
[11:07:19.140818]<k0s>doki_pen: would it be possible, say, to use it behind postfix?
[11:07:36.740915]<k0s>doki_pen: as much as i would want to, i doubt we're moving away from PF anytime soon
[11:07:48.783728]<doki_pen>k0s: yes
[11:07:57.847050]<k0s>doki_pen: good to know
[11:21:58.811050]<k0s>doki_pen: you might also look at mail2trac, btw
[11:22:31.298095]<k0s>doki_pen: its not as far along, but IMHO its a helluva lot easier to understand than email2trac
[11:31:17.376062]<doki_pen>k0s: hehe
[11:31:29.995647]<doki_pen>k0s: I'm pretty sure we made mail2trac
[11:31:37.152408]<doki_pen>k0s: and internally, it uses email2trac
[11:32:03.841052]<doki_pen>k0s: oh, you are working on it?
[11:32:11.630889]<k0s>doki_pen: mail2trac? i was
[11:32:18.947184]<k0s>i wanted a pluggable handlers
[11:32:23.188436]<pacopablo>doki_pen: you going to PyCon this year?
[11:32:33.016835]<doki_pen>k0s: oh, we made Email2Trac plugin
[11:32:37.645857]<doki_pen>k0s: that wraps mail2trac
[11:32:45.968181]<doki_pen>pacopablo: no, I wasn't planning on it
[11:33:02.824128]<doki_pen>my company doesn't pay for stuff like that
[11:33:19.441014]<pacopablo>slackers!
[11:33:24.673526]<doki_pen>yeah, no kidding
[11:33:25.899492]<doki_pen>lol
[11:33:32.079735]<doki_pen>I tried to convince them last year
[11:33:43.287121]<doki_pen>this year i didn't bother
[11:33:52.704664]<doki_pen>I spend most of my day doing php and java anyway
[11:33:58.307022]<doki_pen>so..
[11:34:17.299472]<pacopablo>just tell them that PyCon will help keep you sane ;)
[11:34:31.579346]<doki_pen>haha, true true
[11:34:43.909977]<doki_pen>I'm working on wordpress integration now, talk about insane
[11:34:49.962376]<pacopablo>so, anyone else going to PyCon? other than coderanger_ and retracile?
[11:35:02.197898]<doki_pen>it's not the software so much as the WP community that is abysmal
[11:35:17.722822]<k0s>doki_pen: indeed
[11:35:29.693660]<k0s>pacopablo: i wish :(
[11:36:10.914156]<doki_pen>but the software is pretty bad too
[11:36:30.364768]<k0s>yep
[11:36:39.992733]<k0s>and of course, no one wants to really make it better
[11:36:49.146118]<k0s>so bad community + bad software becomes cyclic
[11:37:10.000526]<hylje>the coding style, my goodness
[11:37:12.517446]<doki_pen>k0s: do you think we could combine mail2trac and tracgate?
[11:37:32.988455]<doki_pen>k0s: basically, tracgate gives you an xmlrpc interface for processing mail
[11:37:44.356321]<doki_pen>k0s: but the actually processing of mail, I haven't done much with
[11:38:05.891900]<k0s>doki_pen: i didn't look at tracgate close enough to give a good opinion; but i would recommend making a plugin architecture for handling, if you hadn't already done so
[11:38:29.560381]<doki_pen>k0s: tracgate is just the lamson piece
[11:38:30.856965]<doki_pen>k0s: look at this:
[11:38:39.572092]<doki_pen>http://github.com/dokipen/trac-tracgate-plugin
[11:38:40.864082]<k0s>doki_pen: the rest of what mail2trac does is just utility code, front ends (command line, web), and a dispatcher
[11:38:52.998400]<doki_pen>it would be easy to make a postfix adapter too
[11:38:57.529534]<doki_pen>so you wouldn't need lamson
[11:39:23.253764]<doki_pen>so basically, could I change mail2trac to get email from xmlrpc instead of STDIN
[11:39:38.476015]<doki_pen>the advantage is that you don't need to have the mailserver on the same host as the trac server
[11:39:55.005836]<doki_pen>and you have a trac environment setup for you by xmlrpc
[11:41:01.234868]<doki_pen>so lamson (or postfix)'s job is to send the email to the right trac xmlrpc url
[11:41:14.647566]<doki_pen>the lamson app I made has a few different resolvers
[11:41:25.760222]<doki_pen>based on the To: field
[11:42:13.729757]<k0s>mail2trac just posts the whole message; its resolution is primitive, though its also by the To field
[11:42:34.142545]<doki_pen>k0s: so you don't have any well tested goodies I can steal?
[11:42:43.348987]<doki_pen>k0s: for processing the emails
[11:42:47.691143]<k0s>doki_pen: heh; you can take whatever you want
[11:43:02.003129]<k0s>doki_pen: http://trac-hacks.org/wiki/MailToTracPlugin
[11:43:14.076818]<doki_pen>k0s: i did add some functionality. Like @property value
[11:43:15.558214]<k0s>tested, yes; documented, not so much :(
[11:43:34.299218]<doki_pen>k0s: and replies modify tickets
[11:43:52.373760]<doki_pen>I still didn't do attachments
[11:43:55.031782]<doki_pen>do you have that?
[11:44:08.496192]<k0s>doki_pen: yes; i just blindly through them in, basically though
[11:44:16.342134]<k0s>doki_pen: certainly something worth reexamining
[11:44:30.877207]<k0s>e.g. how many v-cards does a ticket need?
[11:44:47.056703]<doki_pen>ah
[11:44:49.908684]<k0s>and then there's the clients that sent plain text inline and an HTML attachment
[11:45:00.819400]<doki_pen>k0s: right
[11:45:09.514311]<k0s>it wouldn't be hard to whitelist or blacklist though
[11:45:17.048220]<doki_pen>k0s: I could have some syntax like @attach file
[11:45:18.146143]<k0s>based on e.g. mimetype, file extension
[11:45:30.839948]<k0s>doki_pen: oh you mean for the sender
[11:45:34.921360]<k0s>yeah, you could do that
[11:45:35.522340]<doki_pen>k0s: yeah
[11:45:44.231904]<doki_pen>it must be explicit
[11:45:45.244028]<k0s>i find it really hard to teach people do follow directions
[11:45:57.420723]<k0s>so i don't even bother trying anymore, for the most part
[11:45:58.772129]<doki_pen>well, most ppl don't need to add attachments
[11:45:59.745727]<doki_pen>lol
[11:48:51.556890]<k0s>i wish i had gone into natural languages though
[11:48:57.270792]<k0s>every seems to want them
[12:22:18.384875]<djszapi>hello
[12:22:48.372611]<djszapi>Is there a plugin for trac with that I can slide a project plan if an interesting task arrived/was opened.
[12:23:14.806361]<djszapi>I use ganttchart and it would be nice to slide the project schedule if a high priority task was opened.
[12:35:17.324819]<spacy>hi@all
[12:35:54.344106]<spacy>i have a question baout enna. is there a chance to start enna with vdr and not with the mainmenu?
[12:36:50.622776]<osimons>@wrongchannel
[12:36:50.638015]<evil_twin>wrongchannel is This channel is for Trac, the project management software. You are probably looking at the website of a project that uses Trac to run their operations. Chances are we don't know anything about their project, but try looking on their website for more specific support instructions. /list will usually show you a list of all channels on this IRC server, and you
[12:36:55.638401]<evil_twin> can also try looking there.
[12:37:53.820347]<osimons>spacy: ^^ assume this applies to you?
[12:39:22.920257]<spacy>oh sorry
[12:39:40.496069]<spacy>thx
[13:01:08.991563]<rblank>pacopablo: A bit late to the party, but yes, I'll be at PyCon this year.
[14:07:44.799437]<pacopablo>w00t! rblank will be there
[14:40:50.374133]*glezos will try once again, in case our luck has changed. Spent hours on this.. :(
[14:40:54.157386]<glezos>Installed trac 0.11-stable with mercurial plugin.. And we get this unicode error from genshi on some tickets: http://trac.transifex.org/ticket/452
[15:49:55.387176]<dancole>Does anyone have a solution for Browse Source page, such as pagination, when there are too many components? (7,000+). http://plugins.trac.wordpress.org/browser WordPress is looking for a plugin that could fix this.
[16:53:34.237706]<dancole>Would creating a Trac plugin that paginates the Browse Source be overly difficult?