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[00:48:29.778489]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9498 (random ticket URLs in email notifications) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9498#comment:1> - rblank
[03:12:20.193274]<nhck>Hi, how can I improve the performance with my trac+mysql+apache w/ mod_wsgi
[03:45:14.153243]<slam>nhck: in this case mysql-query-cache might improve mostly
[03:46:02.387107]<slam>nhck: and using latest rtac helps a lot, too - much better chaching
[04:29:09.798008]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7015 (Provide interface to fill custom select-boxes) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7015#comment:4> - cboos
[04:34:10.767010]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9226 (How to use WikiFormatting in ticket field 'Component') closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9226#comment:4> - cboos
[04:34:15.767072]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #5211 (Ticket - Wiki Integration enhancement/suggestion) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5211#comment:4> - cboos
[04:36:20.904121]<nhck>i am on 0.12 stable it takes like 30 seconds to load a ticket
[04:36:31.835396]<nhck>slam: i am on 0.12 stable it takes like 30 seconds to load a ticket
[04:39:11.739428]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8335 (Create People page with user profiles and status of who's doing what.) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8335#comment:2> - cboos
[04:39:16.738475]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8672 (Filter ticket queries by user groups) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8672#comment:5> - cboos
[04:42:36.799633]<outa>hi, i have a quick question about trac tickets: how can i add other users to the cc list of an open ticket? i just see a checkbox with "add to cc: <my username>"
[04:48:20.496671]<retracile>outa: there is a permission that controls whether you can add just your username or freely modify the cc list
[04:48:34.054821]<retracile>outa: TICKET_CC_MODIFY maybe, I'd have to look.
[05:04:16.599451]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #1084 (Percentage complete) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1084#comment:10> - cboos
[05:07:29.518901]<outa>retracile: thanks i guess that's it
[05:24:20.512066]<evil_twin>t.e.o: GenericTrac edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/GenericTrac?version=23> - cboos
[05:29:21.481697]<evil_twin>t.e.o: GenericTrac edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/GenericTrac?version=24> - cboos
[05:34:22.500633]<evil_twin>t.e.o: GenericTrac edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/GenericTrac?version=25> - cboos
[05:54:25.388777]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #1084 (Percentage complete) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1084#comment:11> - rblank
[05:57:05.831744]<mapreduce>That #1084 would be lovely to have.
[06:18:56.288725]<vmnew>how can I change "timeline" link for example, I want it to redirect (link) to another site I have.
[06:28:44.136779]<osimons>@wiki TracNavigation
[06:28:44.146271]<evil_twin>http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracNavigation
[06:29:00.388035]<osimons>vmnew: ^^
[06:37:57.734600]<vmnew>thanks
[06:38:07.776074]<vmnew>simple :)
[06:40:58.965960]<Alver>I like trac a lot.
[06:41:06.505685]<Alver>I liked it before, but it only gets better
[06:41:07.250538]<Alver>heh
[06:44:34.169156]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #1084 (Percentage complete) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1084#comment:12> - cboos
[07:14:39.143146]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #1084 (Percentage complete) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1084#comment:13> - rblank
[07:34:44.400123]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #1084 (Percentage complete) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1084#comment:14> - osimons
[07:49:45.353286]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #1084 (Percentage complete) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1084#comment:15> - ricky.clarkson@…
[07:59:45.938576]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #1084 (Percentage complete) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1084#comment:16> - cboos
[08:34:54.093031]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9495 (CommitTicketUpdater - git and replayed commits) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9495#comment:3> - Pedro Ferreira <ilzogoiby@…>
[08:42:14.779984]<TiN>Osimons Hi, I use FullBlogPlugin:). What do you recommend for moderate comments on the blog. I would want to allow anonymous users.
[08:49:54.737946]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9499 (SubversionException: ('Repository creation failed', 13)) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9499> - anonymous
[09:31:42.442412]<nhck>This stuff: DEBUG: Dispatching <Request "GET '/chrome/common/js/jquery.js'"> takes very long.
[09:40:03.509732]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9498 (random ticket URLs in email notifications) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9498#comment:2> - ivan@…
[09:55:06.986942]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9499 (SubversionException: ('Repository creation failed', 13)) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9499#comment:1> - rblank
[09:57:44.501448]<osimons>TiN: http://trac-hacks.org/browser/fullblogplugin/0.11/tracfullblog/spamfilter.py - it will use spamfilter plugin if installed
[09:59:24.163749]<osimons>other than that i have nothing pre-made. keep an eye on comments and delete inappropriate content :-)
[10:05:08.377764]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #1084 (Percentage complete) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/1084#comment:17> - cboos
[10:07:57.293504]<TiN>osimons: thanks, I installed TracAuthOpenId, think this solves my problem
[10:57:28.239175]<marcd>hello I'm a junior IT admin and a trac noob. Can someone help me with a plugin question? I've inherited a trac install (.11.5) on ubuntu where one of the css files from the TracDiscussion plugin isn't loading or available.
[11:09:57.477269]<osimons>@seen Blackhex
[11:09:57.486401]<evil_twin>blackhex was last seen on irc.freenode.net at Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:15:34 +0100, quitting: "KVIrc Insomnia 4.0.0, revision: , sources date: 20090703, built on: 2009/07/23 21:28:09 UTC http://www.kvirc.net/"
[11:10:22.264391]<osimons>@seen blackhex*
[11:10:22.272559]<evil_twin>no logs for blackhex*
[11:10:27.475779]<osimons>oh.
[11:12:03.311186]<osimons>marcd: what is the path+name of the file giving 404? and compared to a file that loads normally?
[11:13:06.480335]<osimons>ah. nothing from discussion loads perhaps. i see. anyway, use Firebug or Web Inspector or something to detect the path(s) for 404 files
[11:13:34.388317]<marcd>osimons: /trac/chrome/discussion/css/discussion.css
[11:14:11.188099]<osimons>@logging
[11:14:11.203699]<evil_twin>logging is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[11:14:50.923250]<osimons>marcd: turn on debug logging for a bit and make sure the request actually makes it to Trac request handling (and not proxied/rewritten by you frontend or something)
[11:15:14.933121]<marcd>Thanks reading TracLogging
[11:15:23.317320]<osimons>if you just try to load /trac/chrome/discussion/css/discussion.css it should regisester the incoming request
[11:15:41.179880]<osimons>marcd: btw, what is the path to a successfully loading css - like trac.css?
[11:16:23.410083]<marcd>osimons: /trac/chrome/common/css/trac.css <-- this works
[11:24:54.151048]<osimons>marcd: i suspect your apache config is configured to serve static files directly from disk instead of through trac - grep your apache config for "/trac/chrome" and see if anything shows up
[11:28:16.562745]<marcd>osimons: yes, looks like you were right "Alias /trac/chrome /var/www/pop.sycle.net/trac-stable/static/htdocs"
[11:30:43.483769]<osimons>i suggest you extract the latest static resources from trac and all installed plugins and update your external htdocs: trac-admin /path/to/project/on/disk deploy /path/to/temp/dir
[11:31:17.597149]<osimons>- inside /path/to/temp/dir you will see cgi-bin (ignore) and a chrome directory containing all static resources. including then hopefully the discussion plugin... :-)
[11:31:39.986200]<marcd>great! I'll try that.
[11:33:00.977056]*osimons heads for sofa to watch Bolt with the kids.
[11:34:35.216593]<marcd>thanks! osimons.
[11:38:01.714252]<marcd> trac-admin /var/www/xxx/trac-stable/app/ deploy ~/tracDeploy
[11:38:02.242519]<marcd> self.message = message
[11:38:02.751318]<marcd> return unicode(self.message)
[11:38:02.918905]<marcd>Command failed: Destination already exists. Remove and retry.
[11:38:07.209773]<marcd>:-(
[11:41:26.060851]<marcd>So I got some help from osimons on this and now I reached another road block. It seems that the deploy command is failing and I'm wondering why. I get two messages saying that "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/trac/core.py:42: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been deprecated as of Python 2.6 - self.message = message and /usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/trac/core.py:42: DeprecationWarning: BaseException.message has been depre
[11:41:26.227335]<marcd>as of Python 2.6 - return unicode(self.message) and finally Command failed: Destination already exists. Remove and retry." Can anyone help me with this problem? I'm very new to trac and python
[12:08:25.881970]<osimons>marcd: "find ~/tracDeploy/"
[12:09:00.337994]<osimons>the DeprecationWarning is just a warning - it can be safely ignored.
[12:09:46.812861]<osimons>it should all be in that directory - also seeing that the destination already exists
[12:09:54.198826]<marcd>okay, I'm at tracDeploy
[12:10:34.722554]<osimons>isn't it all in there?
[12:10:48.941159]<marcd>nope
[12:11:15.228367]<marcd>trac-admin returns "Command failed: Destination already exists. Remove and retry."
[12:11:27.983176]<osimons>so, remove ~/tracDeploy and try again
[12:11:58.430049]<marcd>okay
[12:12:34.068856]<marcd>OKAY! got it
[12:13:05.696745]<osimons>goodie. then you can move over the resources you need to where they are statically served by apache.
[12:13:19.564178]*osimons returns to Bolt and the kids. later.
[12:19:17.689380]<marcd>awesome thanks osimons. that did the trick
[13:01:25.460563]<grey->ahoy. :) Anyone managed to get trac authenticating against MS AD properly? I seem to be having the damndest time. Also tried the SSLAuthenticationPlugin as well; which totally took my user cert; but didn't seem to do any sort of authentication with it (even in their example still seems to use just htpasswd login)
[13:31:17.156160]<srl294>question on WSGI... shouldn't I have only one process to avoid 'database locked' errors? Or do I need to make the jump to mysql?
[13:38:47.418796]<pacopablo>grey-: what do you mean "authenticating against MS AD properly"?
[13:39:01.491050]<pacopablo>grey-: SSO? or simply same username/password
[13:43:00.995279]<grey->pacopablo: . . . is there a difference between same username/passphrase with what's in AD and single sign on?
[13:43:32.285156]<grey->anyway, as it stands now, I just get errors saying that apache was unable to contact the domain controller/ldap authority. ;-/
[13:44:05.082932]<grey->and on the AD end of things, I see nothing in the logs; but they can definitely pass packets between each other.
[13:44:50.779277]<grey->srl294: it's been my own experience that once moving off of sqlite (to postgres; though presumably mysql would work too) those went away. Also, got a performance boost.
[13:45:03.255565]<pacopablo>the difference I see is that one uses kerberos, etc, such that the user doesn't have to enter in username/password and the other requires username and password and then auths against LDAP
[13:45:05.444832]<grey->(in regards to an older trac setup at a previous company that I didn't setup).
[13:45:42.734276]<pacopablo>there is an ActiveDirectoryAuthPlugin for AccountManager that I know works with authing against AD
[13:45:50.016625]<grey->pacopablo: ahh right. I think either would be acceptable. I was hoping perhaps the SSLAuthenticationPlugin would get me the no-entry needed stuff just based off user certs issued by our internal CA.
[13:45:58.762054]<grey->pacopablo: oh, interesting!
[13:46:14.323297]<pacopablo>account manager can also give you a form based login
[13:46:25.186103]<pacopablo>instead of the pop-up box offerred by apache
[13:46:33.089524]<grey->hmm, will look into both of those, thanks! :)
[13:47:25.398368]<grey->one kind of related note (on the subject of plugins) seems like a lot of them only mention up to .11; but I presume most work without issue on .12 so far?
[13:48:41.881580]<pacopablo>it's a little hit and miss, but lots of them with only 0.11 branches will work. some have trunk branches, such as account manager, and those usually work with 0.12
[13:49:53.243421]<grey->awesome, thanks for the pointers!
[13:50:15.515550]<grey->oh, heh...
[13:50:26.992279]<grey->I see you had something to do with the ActiveDirectoryAuthPlugin bit. ;)
[13:51:36.452911]<pacopablo>just a bit
[13:51:46.880706]<pacopablo>it's also how I know it works
[13:54:24.664417]<srl294>grey-: thanks for the comment on using a 'real' database
[13:54:47.928796]<grey->hey, I like sqllite.
[13:54:54.701774]<srl294>OKay.
[13:55:01.726043]<grey->but definitely at a previous job; moving to postgres improved things quite a bit.
[13:55:02.070166]<srl294>A dedicated, non-embedded database. (I like it too)
[13:55:43.388940]<srl294>we added bitten and moved to 0.12 .. lots of bells and whistles, but, more db load
[13:55:47.208854]<grey->pacopablo: well, that's important! The AD authentication documentation I was finding was all 3+ years old. ;-/
[13:56:02.914291]<grey->yeah, I'm setting up a new environment at a new job.
[13:56:11.055104]<grey->.12 certainly added some neat features!
[13:56:50.656131]<grey->but between those, as well as lessons I learned from the past.. and trying to correct some annoyances I never got around to fixing last time I used it; I've found myself a little confused in a couple places. Thankfully db choice wasn't one of them.
[13:57:05.883347]<grey->but hopefully this authentication piece will move forward now. ;)
[13:57:15.796179]<grey->also noticed some attachment plugin that looked neat.
[13:58:28.054165]<grey->pacopablo: so your plugin works in conjunection with the AccountManagerPlugin?
[13:58:39.518978]<pacopablo>yes
[13:58:39.733120]<srl294>woops, i wondered why you called me srl294
[14:15:33.343302]<grey->wait, mod_python is dead? How did I miss that? What's the recommended installation strategy now, fastcgi?
[14:15:49.378758]<srl295>grey- wsgi ?
[14:16:01.943939]<pacopablo>mod_wsgi works well
[14:16:15.798154]<grey->haven't used wsgi before... have used fastcgi... what can I expect to vary?
[14:17:22.868498]<srl295>you can use fastcgi too
[14:19:14.038995]<srl295>http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/05/modpython-project-soon-to-be-officially.html
[14:30:52.477238]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8459 (svn:mergeinfo rendering is far too slow) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8459#comment:29> - duncanphilipnorman@…
[14:40:54.419615]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9500 (TRAC-ADMIN error when used in svn post-commit hook) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9500> - dmcr@…
[17:24:22.747061]<grey->man... I feel like I was so close to getting things how I wanted them; and now have unwound everything since shifting away from mod_python; hah!
[17:24:50.514061]<grey->cross-eyed looking at config files; I think it's time to call it a day and come back fresh tomorrow (or Thursday actually)
[22:42:17.582220]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #9500 (TRAC-ADMIN error when used in svn post-commit hook) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/9500#comment:1> - rblank
[22:42:22.581758]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracGuide edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracGuide?version=61> - Allen Smith <educationessaysnet@…>
[23:52:55.659084]<gasull>Hi all. Is it possible to copy or create a backup of a Trac repository? It's actually in ProjectLocker, so I can't ssh into the server.