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[00:07:03.250682]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracDev/Performance edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/Performance?version=5> - cboos
[00:37:03.415279]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracDev/Performance edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/Performance?version=6> - cboos
[00:42:03.454796]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracDev/Performance edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracDev/Performance?version=7> - cboos
[01:22:03.707248]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #2636 (browsing a directory with many files takes a long time) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2636#comment:5> - cboos
[02:12:04.297307]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8546 (bugzilla2trac.py: Attachments are copied incorrectly) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8546#comment:5> - remke.rutgers@…
[02:12:09.298266]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #6792 (bugzilla2trac.py: attachments not imported correctly from bugzilla 2.32.2) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6792#comment:4> - remke.rutgers@…
[02:33:40.512134]<Xzanron>Hi. in trac.ini how do i enter multiple lines of text for default_description? E.g. Steps:\n\nExpected:\n\nActual:\n\nComments:\n . I've tried \n, and wiki markup but neither worked. Thanks
[02:36:38.314711]<Xzanron>Is there a better way of doing what I want?
[03:09:20.429611]<pwet>hello
[03:11:13.394999]<pwet>i'm interested in plugin development, and i don't understand why in docs/tutorials found on trac.edgewall.org and on trac-hacks.org, the content of the "entry_points" of the files setup.py, is put in python comments ( """ """ )
[03:13:02.159003]<pwet>in setuptools doc, they don't use python comments
[03:15:29.999237]<pwet>i found some plugins on trac-hack.org which don't use comments too
[03:18:05.662200]<pwet>in eggcookingtutorial i can read entry_points = """
[03:18:05.814683]<pwet> [trac.plugins]
[03:18:05.827588]<pwet> helloworld = helloworld
[03:18:05.842186]<pwet> """,
[03:18:46.752688]<pwet>and here's a link of a plugin which doesn't use comments http://trac-hacks.org/browser/accountmanagerplugin/0.11/setup.py
[03:18:50.765895]<osimons>pwet: that isn't a comment - it is a multi-line string
[03:19:46.212980]<pwet>i always thought it was a multiline comment
[03:21:58.152560]<osimons>but anyway, setuptools supports both dictionary and string input - if it gets a string it will parse it as a config. the alternative approach is entry_points={'trac_plugins': ['myplugin = myplugin', 'myplugin2 = myplugin2']}
[03:22:38.017300]<pwet>ok, thanks osimons to have pointed me to that points about python language and setuptools
[03:23:19.039001]<osimons>best of luck, pwet - plugins is really easy once you understand the funamentals.
[03:23:27.890058]<pwet>it seems so
[03:24:22.239842]<pwet>in fact i'm interested to adapt the plugins/components system of trac for a (free software) client's game
[03:27:05.622562]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8566 (bugzilla2trac.py: Components from too many bugzilla products get imported) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8566> - remke.rutgers@…
[03:28:15.975607]<pwet>to help me in investigating trac source code, i'm working on a uml representation of trac, i would be glad to share it with trac community as soon as it will be usable
[03:32:05.585306]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8428 (NameError: global name 'sqlite' is not defined) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8428#comment:7> - cboos
[03:37:05.647486]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8562 (trac-admin ... initenv: Skips a question. Why?) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8562#comment:4> - cboos
[03:39:06.164220]<osimons>pwet: nice. see TravDev/ wiki pages and find a useful place to create or edit a wiki page to attach it
[03:41:24.541101]<pwet>thanks, i'll do
[04:12:06.125677]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracFineGrainedPermissions edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFineGrainedPermissions?version=13> - anonymous
[04:27:54.763548]<sobersabre>hi, I'm trying to glue trac with git, and it doesn't work.
[04:31:39.871362]<Xzanron>Hi. in trac.ini how do i enter multiple lines of text for default_description? E.g. Steps:\n\nExpected:\n\nActual:\n\nComments:\n . I've tried \n, and wiki markup but neither worked. Thanks
[04:31:54.627851]<Xzanron>Is there a better way of doing what I want?
[04:32:06.093339]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracFineGrainedPermissions edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracFineGrainedPermissions?version=14> - cboos
[04:36:32.063329]<matt1s>When we run trac-admin resync, the entire SVN tree is loaded. Is it possible to make it only sync the latest changes{
[04:36:33.279112]<matt1s>?
[04:58:00.472390]<kirean>matt1s: you can specify what revs to resync
[04:58:48.204262]<matt1s>kirean, thanks a bunch
[04:59:05.685185]<kirean>@inform matt1s TracAdmin#FullCommandReference
[04:59:20.691892]<evil_twin>no result for TracAdmin#FullCommandReference
[04:59:28.472851]<kirean>hmm, darn.. I don't remember the syntax
[04:59:38.327895]<kirean>@inform matt1s wiki TracAdmin#FullCommandReference
[04:59:38.340751]<evil_twin>http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracAdmin#FullCommandReference
[04:59:43.342937]<evil_twin>matt1s: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracAdmin#FullCommandReference
[05:21:30.162793]<sobersabre>anyway, I'm trying to use git plugin, and something is wrong.
[05:21:43.790543]<sobersabre>the error I am getting is: Trac detected an internal error:
[05:21:44.064769]<sobersabre>GitError: GIT control files not found, maybe wrong directory?
[05:21:58.684415]<sobersabre>the thing is I am using an empty repository.
[05:22:22.599342]<sobersabre>is it possible the git plug errs because the repo is empty ?
[05:52:09.423350]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8567 (On MySQL cluster, use VARCHAR instead of TEXT) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8567> - anonymous
[06:42:43.009437]*retracile growls something disdainful about mornings.
[06:48:12.466757]<s1ck>hey i got a question about post-commit
[06:51:39.040435]*jhammel waits as the suspense builds
[06:54:52.057734]<asmodai>retracile: :P
[07:04:50.939888]<retracile>asmodai: eh?
[07:06:52.565086]<asmodai>Good morning ^^
[07:10:42.275939]<Xzanron>Hi. in trac.ini how do i enter multiple lines of text for default_description? E.g. Steps:\n\nExpected:\n\nActual:\n\nComments:\n . I've tried \n, and wiki markup but neither worked. Thanks
[07:10:44.257750]<Xzanron>Is there a better way of doing what I want?
[07:12:08.062233]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracUsers edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUsers?version=866> - sircco@…
[07:16:31.605958]<jhammel>anyone know of a wiki page that documents how the ticket CC works?
[07:16:34.288127]<jhammel>I'm confused
[07:19:26.697555]<jhammel>like how my Trac allows me to edit the CC list and t.e.o. only has Add to CC:
[07:25:59.192955]<retracile>asmodai: ah. Sorry, a bit slow on the uptake this morning. :/
[08:19:35.900392]<dvirsky>Hi. Can anyone recommend the best way to make the workflow of a trac ticket, so that a developer can close a ticket, and then QA can "approve" the fix? i.e "reclose" it (without reopening of course)
[08:22:34.500251]<retracile>dvirsky: have you looked at the example workflows?
[08:23:12.518056]<dvirsky>I read the FAQ. where can they be found?
[08:23:43.368908]<dvirsky>found it
[08:24:35.349339]<dvirsky>thanks
[08:25:55.765891]<doki_pen>jhammel: lol, stop making fun of noobs
[08:31:43.650312]<pacopablo>retracile: I think you may need to be punished for your horrible pun on trac-dev yesterday :)
[08:32:17.826939]<jhammel>pacopablo: was it as bad as "pun-ished"?
[08:33:26.897969]<retracile>pacopablo: hehe :) hey, at least I read some of the trac-dev posts :)
[08:34:01.904367]<pacopablo>jhammel: worse :)
[08:35:53.933973]<retracile>heh :)
[08:56:20.305980]<yoyo35>hi all i just migrated trac and agilo to a new server and i get Error: Not Found
[08:56:20.647447]<yoyo35>No handler matched request to /login any ideas why?
[08:56:36.016880]<yoyo35>also i cant see the login link
[09:08:34.356825]<nedko>coderanger_: do i need some additiona setup in order to make IncludeMacro work with source: and the git plugin?
[09:12:09.212001]<evil_twin>t.e.o: thumbailPreviewOfAttachImages.r8466.patch attached to Ticket #2827 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/2827/thumbailPreviewOfAttachImages.r8466.patch> - anonymous
[09:15:12.983600]<nedko>hvr: I get "No node FILENAME at revision None", is this thrown by GitPlugin?
[09:28:48.877155]<nely>Hi
[09:28:50.559820]<nely>?
[09:29:30.736567]<pacopablo>'lo
[09:29:55.573219]<pacopablo>nedko: I've got a patch that should fix that
[09:29:59.226473]<nedko>pacopablo: where is the patch?
[09:30:08.861405]<pacopablo>on my machine ;)
[09:30:11.751466]<nedko>http://trac-hacks.org/ticket/5612 ?
[09:30:21.785458]<nedko>http://trac-hacks.org/attachment/ticket/5612/t5612_get_node_null_rev_fix.patch ?
[09:30:48.169717]<pacopablo>oh, yeah, I did create a ticket for it already
[09:30:49.732908]<pacopablo>good for me ;)
[09:30:52.282810]<pacopablo>that's the patch
[09:31:26.165815]<nedko>pacopablo: do you use IncludeMacro too?
[09:32:32.302551]<nedko> rev = rev and str(rev) or 'HEAD' # paranoia
[09:32:35.769252]<nedko>this looks wrong
[09:32:54.154879]<nedko>isnt result of evaluation a boolean?
[09:33:06.441728]<nedko>originally it is "rev = str(rev) # paranoia"
[09:34:20.301291]<pacopablo>no, it's right
[09:34:28.855489]<pacopablo>a string is True
[09:35:14.106848]<pacopablo>so, if rev is not None (or 0) then it str()s the rev and since a string is True, it returns the string
[09:35:29.718602]<pacopablo>if rev is None, then it returns the "true" string 'HEAD'
[09:36:16.071892]<pacopablo>you can test it in the python shell if you're really curios, but it's correct
[09:36:43.251615]<nedko>i'll just try it
[09:36:51.626971]<nedko>so do you use IncludeMacro too?
[09:37:03.754624]<pacopablo>it's a fairly common idiom for a "kind of" replacement for a ternary operator
[09:37:15.339072]<pacopablo>nedko: it's been a while and currently, no.
[09:38:20.305017]<nedko>is there an anonymous svn:// url for track-hacks repo?
[09:38:49.077831]<jhammel>nedko: why would you want/need an svn:// url?
[09:39:06.118238]<nedko>jhammel: because svn on the site does not support http
[09:39:12.686253]<jhammel>nedko: yes it does
[09:39:30.003131]<jhammel>http://trac-hacks.org/svn/
[09:41:37.279573]<nedko>jhammel: on the site that my trac instanse runs
[09:42:31.156832]<nedko>so is there a svn:// url for the repo?
[09:42:34.705695]<jhammel>nedko: ... that's not the trac-hacks repo?
[09:43:09.068154]<nedko>that repo, and i want to checkout on the site where i run trac, and svn there does not support http for checkout
[09:43:32.908559]<nedko>so is there a svn:// url for the trac-hacks repo?
[09:43:47.234796]<pacopablo>nedko: no
[09:43:54.015864]<nedko>thanks
[09:44:09.440395]<pacopablo>why doesn't your svn support http checkout
[09:44:10.116395]<pacopablo>?
[09:44:32.854021]<nedko>because world is not perfect
[09:44:42.504636]<nedko>i wont recompile it because of this
[09:44:48.488482]<pacopablo>indeed
[09:45:04.507924]*nedko is going to git-svn the gitplugin repo
[09:55:45.071485]<nedko>pacopablo: the patch works here, thank you!
[10:04:57.645340]<pacopablo>good to hear
[10:14:26.960641]<djangoblin>hi. is there a straight-forward way to remove all those wiki articles (the online docs) from a fresh standard trac install, i.e. without deleting each individual article manually via the web interface?
[10:17:09.801145]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8568 (TypeError: list indices must be integers) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8568> - vincentcr
[10:19:37.356564]<pacopablo>djangoblin: not really
[10:19:50.596056]<pacopablo>djangoblin: you could go into the database and delete the contents of the wiki table
[10:26:06.954649]<djangoblin>thx
[10:32:09.900439]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8568 (TypeError: list indices must be integers) closed - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8568#comment:1> - cboos
[10:32:14.906224]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8568 (TypeError: list indices must be integers) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8568#comment:2> - cboos
[10:52:45.534661]<lvaray>I just migrated trac 0.11.5 to a new server and i get No handler matched request to /login i did a hotcopy and copy/paste it over to the new server
[10:54:05.650478]<lvaray>any idea as to why i am getting this error message?
[11:04:20.072050]<pacopablo>@logging
[11:04:20.157518]<evil_twin>logging is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[11:06:49.460082]<lvaray>thx evil_twin will try that now
[11:10:33.712854]<lvaray>did no error message visible it give me error not found and No handler matched request to /login also i dont see any login link
[11:18:50.385644]<lvaray>am i suppose to add default_handler = WikiHandler to trac.ini for this to work?
[11:24:44.387136]<lvaray>it was at the /login that i get problem no error are being thrown out
[11:33:11.197502]<lvaray>DEBUG: Dispatching <Request "GET u'/login'"> Trac[main] WARNING: HTTPNotFound: 404 Not Found (No handler matched request to /login)
[11:34:03.062908]<pacopablo>ironi: did you have plugins on the old server that you didn't move over to the new server?
[11:34:29.971326]<pacopablo>er, lvaray that is
[11:34:39.274466]<pacopablo>did you have plugins that you didn't move over?
[11:34:47.624529]<pacopablo>did you used to have account manager installed?
[11:35:05.902013]<lvaray>hmm i did made a hotcopy
[11:35:07.834873]<lvaray>yes i didi
[11:35:40.568317]<pacopablo>make sure that the plugin is installed on the new server and check the log to see if it's loading
[11:35:48.356038]<pacopablo>my guess is that it's not loading/not installed
[11:36:44.889920]<lvaray>ok thx a lot
[12:01:08.810950]<parceval>hello, is there a way to have a custom ticket select field take the values from a table in the database?
[12:59:31.268331]<unomi>Hi, is anyone here using the peereview plugin?
[12:59:31.341697]<unomi>I am wondering if it works with git?
[13:09:11.997261]<Josh1>hi all, is there a way to make the Full description field plain text as opposed to wikiformat?
[13:18:34.444026]<Josh1>anyone?
[14:03:31.955922]<osimons>Josh1: not really no. not easily. you could edit the template and remove the call to wiki_to_html() for that field, and just display the contents without transformation.
[14:08:04.465941]<Josh1>ok thanks
[14:08:39.853801]<Josh1>actually, while i got ya, where would i edit that template
[15:32:13.975084]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8467]: MultiRepos: Added a `trac-admin` command `repository set` to change ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8467> - rblank
[15:39:17.007577]<_Serge>hi guys. can somebody tell me what exactly "authenticated" attribute in session_attribute table means?
[15:42:18.377790]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #5993 (Confusing error message when repository_dir has changed.) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5993#comment:5> - rblank
[15:43:36.570129]<pacopablo>hvr: ping
[15:43:54.456976]<pacopablo>_Serge: it means that they have logged in
[15:44:02.506256]<pacopablo>at least once
[15:44:52.372032]<_Serge>you mean the user must be logged in to read the name and value attributes?
[15:45:26.032106]<pacopablo>um, depends
[15:45:35.122671]<pacopablo>what are you talking about?
[15:46:38.821779]<pacopablo>non-authenticated users may set values such as username and email, as long as anonymous has permissions to do so
[15:46:55.730370]<pacopablo>_Serge: what's you're real problem?
[15:47:19.949931]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Changeset [8468]: MultiRepos: Fixed an error message during syncing to correctly reference ... - <http://trac.edgewall.org/changeset/8468> - rblank
[15:47:24.953571]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #5993 (Confusing error message when repository_dir has changed.) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5993#comment:6> - rblank
[15:47:50.863349]<_Serge>i need to describe the trac database for my plugin.
[15:48:18.206758]<_Serge>only the session_attribute table, i've used for storing my data
[15:54:00.586680]<pacopablo>_Serge: aok, though I don't see how that matters much for the authenticated attribute of said table
[15:54:12.835208]<pacopablo>user's don't have a "view" of the table
[15:54:35.789488]<pacopablo>so no one user can see all the rows in said table
[15:54:53.206364]<pacopablo>unless, of course, you go into the db directly on the command line or such
[15:58:02.663204]<_Serge>it is possible for one user to have "authenticated" value "0"? for example for new user, who did not logged in
[16:02:20.368877]<pacopablo>_Serge: yes
[16:02:41.988050]<pacopablo>though it's infreuquent
[16:03:00.313191]<pacopablo>and you'd have to be using something like account manager
[16:05:52.525490]<_Serge>ok, thanks. one thing more, will be the user with "authenticated" value "0" returned be get_known_users() method?
[16:06:09.503505]<_Serge>be == by
[16:07:28.437794]<pacopablo>um, haven't looked recently, but the answer used to be: no
[16:08:52.543647]<pacopablo>just looked, answer is still no
[16:09:13.467084]<pacopablo>authenticated MUST be 1 for get_known_users() to even consider it
[16:16:45.069740]<_Serge>oh. i suppose i'm using a HtPasswdStore method to store my user data (share the htpasswd file with svn system). for one user, who is in the htpasswd file but did not logged in anytime the get_known_users() method returns no values?
[16:18:42.766003]<pacopablo>right
[16:18:54.330969]<pacopablo>http://pacopablo.com/blog/pacopablo/blog/set-assign-to-drop-down
[16:19:15.168601]<pacopablo>that has a script for populating the required fields such that a user appears in get_known_users()
[16:22:25.925055]<_Serge>should i run the script everytime i want to populate fileds?
[16:27:57.197112]<_Serge>seems to be difficult for me :-) i'm using the get_users() method from account manager plugin now. the thing, i have to describe one more element
[16:28:44.430510]<_Serge>pacopablo: thank you for great help.
[17:10:18.903164]<fmatthew5876>I'm trying to use the table of contents macro. it shows the == and === level headers on the page but not the = level headers? How can I add those to it?
[17:52:15.002682]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #2086 (better support for multiple repositories ) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/2086#comment:43> - Fred McTaker <TakeyMcTaker@…>
[18:02:14.952590]<evil_twin>t.e.o: InterDiff created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/InterDiff?version=1> - Fred McTaker <TakeyMcTaker@…>
[18:19:43.681316]<apostle>I installed a plugin and trac won't start now...it was the iniadmin plugin
[21:10:19.029963]<Noccy>good morning :) is there someone in here that has some leet madskills with the e-mail verification plugin?
[21:10:27.072508]<Noccy>i keep getting "Warning: Invalid verification token"
[21:17:19.997875]<Noccy>registration isn't working either, "AttributeError: 'TracError' object has no attribute 'acctmgr'"
[21:25:49.996931]<pacopablo>Noccy: are you using the latest trunk version of account manager?
[21:26:04.655563]<pacopablo>and make sure you have logging turned on and see if there are any tracebacks in there
[21:26:11.887234]<pacopablo>@logging
[21:26:11.912519]<evil_twin>logging is http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracLogging <-- Enable debug logging to file, ensure your environments log/ directory is writeable by your web server user, check for errors.
[21:54:46.017185]<ghosTM55>hi all , i'm tring to install trac as cgi , but after the installation , i got the internel server error(apache,fastcgi) , anyone knows the mistake i possibly made ?
[22:44:52.224295]<iofafo>hey guys, I have a trac installation, all setup with SVN etc... it's been working and active for a few months. I'm migrating it to a new server
[22:44:57.624523]<iofafo>how should I migrate the installation?
[22:45:02.352403]<iofafo>should I simply scp the dir over ?
[22:46:24.834539]<kirean>lookup hotcopy commands for both svn and trac
[22:46:31.337998]<iofafo>cool
[22:47:42.587073]<kirean>@inform iofafo wiki TracBackup
[22:47:43.042312]<evil_twin>http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracBackup
[22:47:46.202974]<iofafo>yeap thanks
[22:47:48.041958]<evil_twin>iofafo: http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracBackup
[22:47:50.385696]<iofafo>already doing this
[22:47:51.274444]<iofafo>almsot done
[22:47:51.692919]<iofafo>:)
[22:47:56.075151]<kirean>gl
[22:48:01.545456]<iofafo>thanks all done and working thanks again
[23:15:05.466162]<ghosTM55> hi all , i'm tring to install trac as cgi , but after the installation , i got the internel server error(apache,fastcgi) , anyone knows the mistake i possibly made ?