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[00:42:11.106018]<kirean>ghosTM55: your not leaving much to go on.. maybe pastebin?
[00:42:45.805149]<ghosTM55>kirean: i've made it , thx for help :)
[01:02:20.225598]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8569 (ProgrammingError: Cannot operate on a closed cursor.) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8569> - oezguen
[01:32:20.317914]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8569 (ProgrammingError: Cannot operate on a closed cursor.) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8569#comment:1> - cboos
[01:40:46.780974]<umc-work>hey guys. I have a 'weird' problem with trac. installed it on mandriva (using the package manager), serving it with apache-mod_wsgi, all goes well, except css
[01:40:52.834301]<umc-work>trac.css loads fine
[01:41:08.107786]<umc-work>but admin.css, roadmap.css, etc, load as blank files
[01:41:31.517018]<umc-work>they're all requested from the same place, I checked the folder, they have content, same permissions as trac.css, etc
[01:42:04.355732]<umc-work>the net tab of firebug gives a 200 code for the files, so it's not like they're not found, but when I type their address in the browser, I see empty files
[01:42:11.854084]<umc-work>any ideea what could be wrong ?
[02:10:46.990979]<Evanlec>Oh gosh, is there any love for git users ? :(
[02:11:06.330264]<Evanlec>why oh why is trac so oriented on svn
[02:11:07.812971]<umc-work>I'm one :)
[02:11:24.389572]<umc-work>maybe svn is more known and used
[02:11:29.748376]<umc-work>but I like git better also
[02:11:30.769769]<Evanlec>certainly is
[02:11:37.078835]<Evanlec>but it is certainly inferior
[02:11:56.534399]<umc-work>why is that ? in what respect ?
[02:12:17.625119]<Evanlec>well, linus gave a speech on this
[02:12:25.996826]<Evanlec>so im not just making it up
[02:12:46.347186]<Evanlec>there are many reasons
[02:13:05.936265]<umc-work>ah... I missunderstood. you're saying that svn is inferior... right ?
[02:13:11.035985]<Evanlec>right
[02:13:15.717424]<umc-work>I heard the speech at google
[02:13:20.278666]<Evanlec>yea
[02:13:47.448607]<Evanlec>i mostly do centralized development anyways but i still find svn to be cumbersome
[02:14:09.727088]<Evanlec>thus even in non-distributed development i think git is superior
[02:14:16.727939]<umc-work>we also swtiched all our projects from svn to git in he office
[02:14:34.386511]<Evanlec>right off the bat you notice how much faster it is
[02:14:45.314190]<Evanlec>and no .svn/ dirs all over the place
[02:15:04.975986]<umc-work>well... probably when it will work properly in windows, also, and it will have proper GUIs, maybe more people will adopt it
[02:15:18.181608]<umc-work>yeah... f'in hate those .svn folders all over the place
[02:15:22.318846]<Evanlec>yes i agree it is a shame on windows
[02:16:13.642378]<Evanlec>so many plugins i want to try on trac-hacks.org that simply do not work with gitplugin
[02:16:45.136454]<umc-work>well, I'm deving on linux anyway, so I'm safe with git... :)
[02:16:57.510024]<umc-work>just saying it's probably one of the reasons that holds it back
[02:19:55.372866]<Evanlec>yea
[02:19:56.559524]<rblank>Evanlec: SVN is easier to understand. Not an issue for hard-core developers, but important for people who only develop occasionally.
[02:20:07.411944]<rblank>Evanlec: Different market segments, you could say.
[02:20:35.717717]<Evanlec>rblank: i spose, but i think its more just human nature to resist change
[02:21:13.413747]<rblank>Evanlec: Not quite. Try to explain to non-technical users what a DAG is...
[02:21:24.444237]<Evanlec>whats a DAG? ;p
[02:21:40.309874]<rblank>See? ;-)
[02:21:50.839786]<umc-work>it's a "dog" in brittish-gipsy english
[02:21:58.585707]<rblank>:)
[02:22:09.671869]<umc-work>don't you remember that "Snatch" movie ?
[02:22:42.125192]<Evanlec>oh
[02:22:48.645439]<Evanlec>directed acyclic graph
[02:22:55.985763]<umc-work>well, I don't know what it is either, but I can still use git :)
[02:23:08.255542]<Evanlec>yea i think i sort of understood that, but u dont need to understand that to use git
[02:23:11.445455]<Evanlec>yes, case in point
[02:24:01.034136]<rblank>As soon as you start merging, you have to at least understand a few concepts from graph theory, even if you don't know the "scientific" names.
[02:24:53.188617]<rblank>It comes quite naturally to some people, and other have too much "linear" thinking
[02:25:48.989347]<Evanlec>rblank: what do u mean as soon as you start merging
[02:26:15.986083]<Evanlec>rblank: like merging other people's branches ? and trying to keep everything sorted
[02:27:55.959772]<Evanlec>im happy to see this mercurial plugin being developed offically
[02:28:10.330969]<Evanlec>tho i'd be happier to see a git plugin being official
[02:28:45.573730]<umc-work>we successfully use tracgit at work...
[02:29:17.640294]<Evanlec>i liked mercurial in most aspects except no lightweight branching, and some stubborness about the concept of rebasing
[02:29:18.579709]<rblank>Evanlec: Yes, as soon as your revision history is not linear anymore. But then again, git's --rebase goes a long way for hiding that.
[02:29:41.924582]<Evanlec>rblank: yes, rebase is quite handy ;p
[02:30:30.494677]<Evanlec>hg decided that rebasing shoudl require enabling plugins, jumping through hoops, etc
[02:31:00.966437]<Evanlec>but, different philosophy i guess
[02:31:38.430745]<Evanlec>i detested the idea of cluttering my dirs with copies of a repo in order to branch
[02:52:20.837278]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracStandalone edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracStandalone?version=71> - sander
[04:47:41.010901]<evil_twin>t.e.o: 5806_fix.patch attached to Ticket #5806 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/5806/5806_fix.patch> - François Terrier <fterrier@…>
[04:57:28.041416]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #5806 ([PATCH] Impossible to edit or delete a malformed custom query) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/5806#comment:11> - François Terrier <fterrier@…>
[05:12:26.538030]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8570 (BatchLexer as Processor) created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8570> - anonymous
[05:42:23.984514]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8570 (BatchLexer as Processor) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8570#comment:1> - eblot
[06:12:24.560983]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8168 (wiki [[Image(URL)]], the URL address is truncated to its 74 first ...) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8168#comment:2> - François Terrier <fterrier@…>
[06:12:44.963094]<Josh1>hi all, is there a way to make the Full description field plain text as opposed to wikiformat?
[06:26:03.339956]<thm>in a ticket trac query, how can I select tickets that have 'something' in a ticket field (i.e. the field is not empty) ?
[06:32:20.816076]<parceval>hi there, how can i add custom fields e.g. pulldowns to the tickets which use ajax for their choices?
[06:52:25.086782]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8507 (Developer WSGI Profiling and Debugging) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8507#comment:4> - cboos
[07:02:25.142382]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8507 (Developer WSGI Profiling and Debugging) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8507#comment:5> - rblank
[07:11:50.726978]<nick_fn>Hey everyone
[07:17:25.713876]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8571 (Ability to Add/Edit a new ticket "header") created - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8571> - nick@…
[08:02:26.111133]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #7438 (ticket description editing permissions to owner) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/7438#comment:8> - eblot
[08:37:26.496233]<evil_twin>t.e.o: 8507-pluggable-profiling-r8466.patch attached to Ticket #8507 - <http://trac.edgewall.org/attachment/ticket/8507/8507-pluggable-profiling-r8466.patch> - rblank
[08:52:26.798313]<evil_twin>t.e.o: SeaChange/WhatUsersWant edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/SeaChange/WhatUsersWant?version=103> - dermoth@…
[09:12:26.905931]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8507 (Developer WSGI Profiling and Debugging) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8507#comment:6> - rblank
[09:32:27.055304]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #8507 (Developer WSGI Profiling and Debugging) updated - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/8507#comment:7> - rblank
[12:19:10.293981]<umc>guys, does anyone else have problems with css files with trac ?
[12:19:19.883916]<umc>it's serving trac.css just fine
[12:19:35.373725]<umc>but admin.css, roadmap.css or the other files... I just get blank pages
[12:19:41.722600]<umc>not 404, code is 200
[12:19:45.646570]<umc>si files are there...
[12:20:01.828558]<umc>they're from the same folder as trac.css actually... same permissions
[12:20:05.928522]<umc>I can't understand wtf is wrong
[12:20:14.400505]<umc>I'm serving with apache-mod_wsgi
[12:31:35.305289]<CaMason>with mod_python, where do I need to place my logo.png? I can't get it to work
[12:33:06.226804]<umc>in the environment folder of your project, you have a htdocs
[12:33:11.466500]<umc>right in there should be fine
[12:33:25.817337]<umc>next to the common folder
[12:33:31.743979]<CaMason>yeah I've put it there. Tried setting /htdocs/logo.png in the ini
[12:33:35.049945]<CaMason>and tried without
[12:33:51.544309]<umc>try in the ini site/logo.png
[12:34:07.864693]<CaMason>aha!
[12:34:31.114075]<umc>works ?
[12:34:35.473062]<CaMason>great success
[12:35:37.649640]<umc>CaMason: are your css files being served properly ?
[12:36:03.414950]<CaMason>yup, no problem there
[12:36:11.108890]<umc>does http://trac-site.com/chrome/common/css/admin.css work ok for you ?
[12:36:16.452990]<umc>replace domain, of course
[12:36:31.697535]<umc>don't know what the heck is wrong with my setup, only trac.css is being served...
[12:37:02.329170]<umc>admin.css, roadmap.css, etc, just show up as blank pages in the browser, even though they have content and are in the same folder and have the same permissions as trac.css
[12:37:06.341870]<CaMason>yes admin.css works
[12:37:19.770698]<umc>I must be screwing it up then...
[13:24:00.096663]<prem>does trac need to be restarted etc if trac.ini is modified? Or are changes picked up on the fly
[13:29:32.211104]<asmodai>prem: IIRC most are picked up on the fly
[13:30:51.014920]<prem>thx asmodai
[13:55:04.271487]<jevans>Hello, what should I look for if I don't get priority shading in TicketQuery table results?
[13:55:06.291030]<jevans>It works on my test server but not on the real one and I haven't been able to find what's different.
[14:04:23.627501]<CaMason>how can I format a bold word, followed by an italic word, with no space?
[14:05:29.333324]<CaMason>ah nvm
[14:42:37.536467]<RyanT5000>is there any special way to refer to child wiki pages?
[14:42:57.860030]<RyanT5000>e.g.: I have page A, and page A/B, and I'd like to put a link to A/B in A
[14:43:08.318044]<RyanT5000>but it would be nice if A didn't have to refer to itself to do that
[14:46:20.533257]<jevans>TyanT5000: you can use [./B]
[14:47:18.366988]<RyanT5000>jevans: ah, thanks; that's pretty obvious, i guess :P
[14:49:02.211270]<jevans>I think you can do siblings as well - [../C] to refer to A/C from A/B - haven't tried that though
[14:51:33.397277]<RyanT5000>huh; i'll give it a shot
[16:32:35.486074]<evil_twin>t.e.o: Ticket #6120 (Trac reports for existing rev 'No changeset ??? in the repository' + ...) reopened - <http://trac.edgewall.org/ticket/6120#comment:7> - anonymous
[16:46:40.417385]<tnuic>hi, this might be a stupid question but it trac a multi-project manager? I mean can I have more than one project in the same instance of trac?
[16:52:35.587799]<evil_twin>t.e.o: TracUpgrade edited - <http://trac.edgewall.org/wiki/TracUpgrade?version=67> - anonymous
[16:53:27.212246]<kisielk>tnuic: it's possible, we do it here
[16:53:37.958256]<kisielk>but there's no specific features for multiple projects
[16:53:43.469946]<kisielk>we just do it through policy
[16:55:20.989400]<tnuic>kisielk: but do you create like multiple instances?
[16:55:32.706764]<tnuic>kisielk: multiple databases? one for each project?
[17:00:20.350145]<kisielk>well
[17:00:23.787201]<kisielk>you can have multiple instances, yes
[17:00:25.733542]<kisielk>that's easy
[17:01:10.032434]<tnuic>kisielk: that's what I wouldn't like to do...
[17:01:34.041259]<kisielk>well, you can have more than one project in one database
[17:01:39.367059]<kisielk>but then you share everything
[17:01:44.780455]<kisielk>that's what we do at our company
[17:01:56.759053]<tnuic>kisielk: hmmm, I see... thank you...
[17:02:06.933835]<kisielk>I don't know what other way there is
[17:02:13.659298]<kisielk>you either share stuff in one instance, or have multiple instances
[17:02:18.789155]<kisielk>what else could you do?
[17:03:51.183224]<tnuic>kisielk: well, I'm doing a little research on project management tools to implement at my company... Redmine for example allow multiple projects in the same instance and they dont share context...
[17:04:29.190272]<kisielk>but what's wrong with multiple instances?
[17:04:31.731173]<kisielk>it's not hard to support
[17:04:36.248216]<kisielk>you just initialize a new environment
[17:05:56.326469]<tnuic>kisielk: for my case user control in a single instance would be better
[18:59:00.914106]<hackeron>hey, can someone point me to documentation how to make my trac page to require login to view?
[19:01:11.770115]<hackeron>actually, never mind, I enabled basic auth on the parent path :)
[19:21:03.131274]<hackeron>What is your guy's favourite syntax coloring library to use for python?
[19:35:05.304272]<Plisk>hackeron: http://tinyurl.com/qu4gbc
[19:35:56.775147]<hackeron>Plisk: no, I asked what you favourite one is, not what ones are available
[19:37:12.576936]<Plisk>afaik pygments is that anyone use
[19:37:31.731657]<hackeron>ok, thanks :)
[19:38:20.410917]<Plisk>:)
[21:07:28.346032]<Evanlec>so im using the webadmin extension (comes with 0.11) , why can't i delete wiki pages with it? i would expect it could do nearly everything i could do with trac-admin
[21:16:57.546812]<SealedWithAKiss>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFqTefxgU2o
[21:57:20.059056]<retracile>Evanlec: I believe the button to delete a wiki page is on that wiki page. You will need WIKI_ADMIN or TRAC_ADMIN perms though
[22:06:49.828137]<Evanlec>retracile: hm okay, thanks
[22:25:39.247925]*retracile crashes